Shoal Waters, Charles Stocks old boat, up for sale.

[Greenheart]

Hope she goes to the right sort of owner.
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[TetleyK]

Oddly enough I've just been contacted by someone asking if my boat, Naiad, was for sale. I said no and mentioned that Shoal Waters was for sale. The person making the enquiry, a gent by the name of Mike, said that he had already contacted Tony Smith about Shoal Waters and even had a survey done which threw up a number of concerns about the boat. However, Tony had declined to negotiate a mutually acceptable price and he was now looking for other options.

I asked about the survey and he did email me a page that details the most worrying issue, that of the centreboard case. Not in good shape apparently.

So, anyone out there thinking of buying Shoal Water, make sure you get a survey done.

 

[Mark-1]

Oddly enough I've just been contacted by someone asking if my boat, Naiad, was for sale. I said no and mentioned that Shoal Waters was for sale. The person making the enquiry, a gent by the name of Mike, said that he had already contacted Tony Smith about Shoal Waters and even had a survey done which threw up a number of concerns about the boat. However, Tony had declined to negotiate a mutually acceptable price and he was now looking for other options.

I asked about the survey and he did email me a page that details the most worrying issue, that of the centreboard case. Not in good shape apparently.

So, anyone out there thinking of buying Shoal Water, make sure you get a survey done.

A survey on a 14ft plywood boat? And then concerned over having to replace some marine ply?

That seems mental to me on both counts. Chasing soft wood is part of the hobby.

 

[TetleyK]

16 ft pocket cruiser, not plywood, she's hot-moulded Agba laminates and replacing the centreboard case is not an easy job. Personally, I'd not want to try doing that on Naiad which has the same hull as Shoal Waters as a lot of the interior would need to be removed to get good access.

Still, that's for someone else to worry about.

 

[Mark-1]

, not plywood, she's hot-moulded Agba laminates and replacing the centreboard case is not an easy job.

Thanks for the correction. A lesson in commenting on things I know nothing about.

I've always thought the boat should be in a museum. Perhaps now is the time. (Even if the late great AC Stock thought otherwise!)

Need to re-read his book, winter is the time.

 

[TetleyK]

If Tony Smith had not taken on custodianship of Shoal Waters, Charles was going to break her up, or so his daughter tells me.

 

[Minerva]

Yes. It is opposite the factory. I suppose it is a cardinal mark (ho-ho) marking the water intake for the factory. Maldon Sea Salt prize their product for its unrefined qualities.

Maldon sea salt - the stuff you buy in shops to put in your food - comes from that stretch of water?

 

[TetleyK]

Yep. After being suitably treated I presume.

I wonder if they do tours of the factory...

 

[tillergirl]

"Our soft, crunchy sea salt flakes contain the perfect balance of natural minerals, offering a fresh intensity and clean taste to enhance any dish."

It is nice stuff, very nice stuff.

 

[Mark-1]

If Tony Smith had not taken on custodianship of Shoal Waters, Charles was going to break her up, or so his daughter tells me.

Wow. I just assumed there were museums fighting over it and AC Stock had insisted it remain as a seagoing vessel. (I need to stop assuming things!)

 

[TetleyK]

Wow. I just assumed there were museums fighting over it and AC Stock had insisted it remain as a seagoing vessel. (I need to stop assuming things!)

I must admit that I only found this out last year. Apparently, Charles didn't want Shoal Waters to become an abandoned boat in a boat yard somewhere or, worse, push out into the mud somewhere to rot away and hence the thought that she should be destroyed. Tony Smith came along at just the right time.

Ironically, if Tony is unable to sell the boat she may well end up as an abandoned boat.

 

[Greenheart]

After being suitably treated I presume.

Perhaps irradiation from the tide passing Bradwell nuclear power station was treatment enough, historically.

 

[TetleyK]

Perhaps irradiation from the tide passing Bradwell nuclear power station was treatment enough, historically.

Maldon Salt with a green glow !

 

[LittleSister]

Perhaps irradiation from the tide passing Bradwell nuclear power station was treatment enough, historically.

I doubt it. Blackwater mud is known to be one of the most adhesive substances in the universe, and any electrons radiating out of Bradwell will soon find themselves helplessly and inextricably attached to either the mud on the bottom or the silt in the water. (I say water, but it's actually just thinner mud.) Apparently the black component of the dark brown Blackwater mud bears more than a passing resemblance to dark matter. (We shall pass over the composition of the lighter brown component.)

 

[Mark-1]

I must admit that I only found this out last year. Apparently, Charles didn't want Shoal Waters to become an abandoned boat in a boat yard somewhere or, worse, push out into the mud somewhere to rot away and hence the thought that she should be destroyed. Tony Smith came along at just the right time.

Ironically, if Tony is unable to sell the boat she may well end up as an abandoned boat.

I hope a museum Buys it. Boatyard 4 at Portsmouth historic dockyard as loads of space, repair facilities and far less interesting boats on show.

 

[LittleSister]

November 5th will be round again soon!

 

[Snowgoose-1]

16 ft pocket cruiser, not plywood, she's hot-moulded Agba laminates and replacing the centreboard case is not an easy job. Personally, I'd not want to try doing that on Naiad which has the same hull as Shoal Waters as a lot of the interior would need to be removed to get good access.

Still, that's for someone else to worry about.

How about this British Pathe from 1958. 3 mins 58 seconds.

I expect the Fairey hull would have been made like this ?

 

[burgundyben]

How about this British Pathe from 1958. 3 mins 58 seconds.

I expect the Fairey hull would have been made like this ?

Yes, exactly, same factory, same process.

Shoal Waters is a 16ft Fairey Falcon hull, he built the top himself.

There's a handful of Falcons, I have one.

The same hull was also used for the Fairey Faun motor launch, mostly with outboard, also with inboard as open harbour launch, although I think all inboard engines ones are later conversions.

I hope Shoal Waters is saved.

 

[Plum]

Yes, exactly, same factory, same process.

Shoal Waters is a 16ft Fairey Falcon hull, he built the top himself.

There's a handful of Falcons, I have one.

The same hull was also used for the Fairey Faun motor launch, mostly with outboard, also with inboard as open harbour launch, although I think all inboard engines ones are later conversions.

I hope Shoal Waters is saved.

Still advertised for sale on the OGA website (members advertise for free) OGA - index

 

[jollyboy]

I tripped over a page some time back where a guy had found a Fulmar hull and was making a copy of Shoal Waters. Don't know how it panned out.

That's Mark Austen in the Dinghy Cruising Association.