Ship loading pics (Geeky!)

[jfm]

For anyone interested in the obscure pastime of loading ships here are a few shots of the Sevenstar ship loading on saturday:

Approaching the ship in Southampton docks. The aft-most boat is a Galeon 64 that they picked up in Poland last week, and towards the bow are two boats that loaded just before us namely a Prin V65 and new Sealine T60 (with backward facing arch)

Once you get to the ship, you moor alongside and climb onto the ship's deck via a rope ladder (no elfin safety!) then hang around while they do the slings and lift. Here is start of the lift. In this pic by the way that teak table on the flybr is a custom made job to replace the yuk GRP one that Fairline supply, and the Prin42 in the background is the next boat waiting to load. Mapis M I'm interested in further ideas where to put sat dome. I dont fancy it on the arch "wings" becuase it would stick out sideways a lot and I'd need 2 (one dummy) and yes I'd have to lift the radar, which would then bash the chair on which the dome is currently sitting, so I'd have to lift it further!

Next, the lifting over the deck

Lumishore u/w lights

All secured (at least for the moment - the cover guys came the next day to shrinkwrap it). Our position on the port bow is a result of the fact we're going for Genoa, the last stop. The crane cant lift a boat above another boat, so they all have to be slotted in based on the unloading order, like cars in a car pound. The boats loaded midships will be getting off in Gibraltar (Thursday) or Palma (next weekend). I hope I don't get bashed by too much big sea there on the bow - I don't think so becuase the weather forecasts this week are generally predicitng medium winds easterly across Biscay and down the coast of Portugal. Nautorious, if you happen to see the ship Friday would you grab me a pic please? Its eta Gibraltar is 1800hrs Thursday19/3/09. Thanks. Sorry for camera shake here

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

thank you always a nice review
I think the Galeon is a 640 Fly, having the black hull streak and it looks big too
for the dome if you want single I would put it instead of the radar, and the radar higher up, but my concept would make you modify again the mast lights

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Mmm, no spreader bars or frame to stop the 2 lifting strops from sliding inwards. Elf 'n safety would have had a fit on a UK construction site about that. I guess they know what they're doing but I would have shut my eyes whilst they were doing it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[rickp]

Looks to me like the lifting strops were tied back to the cleats to stop them sliding together - no?

 

[RobWales]

Looks like they secured them with extra (red) strops to the stern and centre cleats.
Spreaders securing strops or not I would have sh*t myself watching if that were my new boat!!
Looking good though, /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif drool drool

 

[mjf]

Very very disappointed as zero Bling showing, other than the afterburner (reheat exhausts) which should have been glowing IMHO.

Tender needed air however......tut tut

You are excused because you were wearing an ensign even on a delv trip - most commendable that

I hope the fire extinguisher in the galley is now stored behind wood?

On the radar dome - what about mounting on a spreader between the two 'mast' uprights so it sits sort of between them under the radar or would the radar base buggar up the line of sight Rx?

 

[jfm]

Yes PY you are correct, Galeon 64. 54 was a typo. I've corrected it above now. They must have wanted that boat delivered to the Med real bad becuase the ship was diverted to Poland just to collect that one boat. The ship would have sailed Holmsund to Southampton, but diverted to a Polish port (forgot the name, near Gdansk) to pick up that one Galeon. My fare for this trip was €22k for a route that the ship was taking anyway - I have no idea how much was paid to divert the ship to Poland!

Deleted User, yes, I thought the same, but they just use those orange straps to keep the slings apart. Sheesh. It was all insured for craning by Pantaenius

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Good spot, rickp. I missed that. Still wouldn't have been allowed on a construction site though /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[jfm]

Tee hee. Tender needs air? Remember it loaded onto ship on coooold southampton and it is going to the med, so would you inflate it at this point in the journey?

So you (and Mapis) are saying put the sat dome on the centreline, underneath the radar? The radar would have to be lifted quite a long way. I'm not sure that would be or look great, and would need a lot of bracket making for the heavy radar. I'll think about that one though

Would be better surely to put a s/s goalpost over the radar and mount the sat dome on that, directly above the radar? Here are some things other folks have done:

pic 1 - I like this one, might do this. Sat is on a goalpost above the radar. It is considerably more time consuming to do than my method though, becuase it involves modifying lots of other parts of the boat

Pic2 - yuk, imho, and radar level with sat domes

Pic3 - awful, imho, as bad as it gets

Pics4+5 - no, wait, this is even worse. I really can't beleive this has been done. Right in the helmsman's line of sight (pics courtesy of Al)

 

[MapisM]

[ QUOTE ]
So you (and Mapis) are saying put the sat dome on the centreline, underneath the radar?

[/ QUOTE ]Actually what I suggested was more along the lines of your pic2, but with the domes as near as possible to the centerline and the radar spinning as little as possible above them.
But since you mention centered under the radar, what about the following?
I don't think the reception quality would suffer as much as you might fear.

 

[RobWales]

If my choice I would do what Mapis has depicted in his picture but make up a stainless plinth or frame affair and position at the same height but forward of the support masts of the TT !

 

[Nick_H]

Nice pics thanks. When mine was transported a diver jumped in the water and went under to position the straps to make sure they weren't fouling the shafts. The fly looks great with the teak table.

It would be interesting to try the sat dome under the radar, as MapisM shows. If I remember correctly, Astra 2 sat is sort of over towards the arch in the wall by the old town from our berths, so even if the GRP tower blocks the signal when the sat is beam on to the boat, it may well be OK on the berth.

I can't see a spare bimini frame by the way, should I be worried /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Hurricane]

Sat Dome

FWIW I think the dome is in the right place where it is at the moment although I'd agree it isnt the pretiest but it must be the most functional position of any discussed here.

It is, however a dish for receiving satellite signals - you cant hide it and expect good results.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Don't satellite receivers need line of sight to any satellite they are receiving in which case stylistic considerations are overriding practical ones here? I would have thought that the first priority should be an unimpeded view of the sky /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
PS Can anyone explain why these domes always have a dummy one on the other side?

 

[peterandjeanette]

Very pleased to see that all went well.
Thanks for the tour on Saturday, pity about our evening drink. Will catch up with you on that one if we ever get to Antibes.
Good luck

 

[mjf]

yes thats exactly what i meant too.

neat if it will work properly.

 

[mjf]

What is loaded in the holds - anything?

Or does this service only load deck cargo?

 

[MapisM]

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Don't satellite receivers need line of sight...
Can anyone explain why these domes always have a dummy one on the other side?

[/ QUOTE ]
1) they do, but at our latitudes the line of sight is never above the dome. Yup, the lateral structure of the arch would still obstruct the line of sight, but imho not as much as might be expected (I never said not at all, mind...).
Worth a try, anyway.
2) either for aesthetic reasons, or to fit a sat communication system in the second dome.

 

[Hurricane]

Mike

[ QUOTE ]
PS Can anyone explain why these domes always have a dummy one on the other side?


[/ QUOTE ]
We went through this last year when fitting out the P67. One thought was to put the dome above the radar scanner like jfm's. But it was far more practical (and cheaper) to put it on the radar arch. It would then look stupid on its own so to balance things out I had a "dummy" one put on the other side. Like you I wondered what I could do with the dummy. I had already replaced the FM aerial with an AIS facility and removed the terrestrial TV aerial because it got in the way. So the solution was to install the removed terrestrial antenna inside the dummy dome - and this aerial can also be used to feed FM signals to the FM receivers in the boat.

So, in answer to your question - the dummy ones are just to make things look pretty.

This is my arrangement.

 

[mjf]

Thats a neat idea - in fact you have all the other stuff in there too AIS, GPS, terristial TV, FM etc etc.