selling the slug and buying a mobo

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Does the first boat in the anchorage have the right to set the tone for subsequent boats??[/QUOTE]


Sounds a good idea (though probably unworkable).

Maybe those yotties that seek 'peace & quiete' and are first in the Cala, Bay etc could erect their inverted motoring cone as a signal that they have decided the Cala, Bay etc is a 'peace & quiete mooring'.

After all they don't use the cone for anything else.
 
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I am currently reading Roger Taylor's "Voyages of a Simple Sailor" and enjoying it very much. He recently did a transatlantic passage on MingMing, a junk rigged 19' Corribee. he chose this vessel, not for financial reasons, but because he valued the principles of simplicity and self-sufficiency. At one point he comments something like "The satisfaction derived from walking up a hill or mountain far exceeds that from driving up it or getting a train". That is what I think you have lost sight of with all your toys & gismos.

Good luck to you, it wouldn't do if we were all the same, but do you see where I am coming from yet? Can you see the difference between waking up in a field in a tent rather than in an airconditioned hotel room? Or the involvement of cycling along country lanes rather than driving them in a car with the windows up & air-con running? Do you get it? Sailing using the elements in silence, feeling the breeze on your cheek & steering to it. Have you ever tried white water kayaking where you need to read, feel & use the water flow to survive? Gliding must be similar:[/QUOTE]



Searush you really do seem to have a fixation with the term 'financial'.

By coincidance my brother (who is a yottie on the East Coast) recently read 'Voyages of a Simple Sailor' and he made the comment that nowhere in the book does he recall Roger Taylor saying that 'financial considerations' where not part of his decision in choosing the Junk.

He just wanted to make the trip in the manner of his choosing.

Good luck to him and I hope he got everything from the experience that he wished for.

I do not wish to replicate the experience.

Neither he nor I are right nor wrong, just different people with different ideas.

Together with my wife I have experienced all the tenting, fell walking, cycling holidays, gliding etc and enjoyed them a great deal, but we now prefer 5 star luxury.

My neice and her husband are what I call the GREAT OUTDOORS people and love the life style, but they still enjoy the time they spend on holiday on my boat.

They never expect me to "get it" so I asked my neice and husband to read your posts and they found some of the comments almost bigoted and could not understand why anyone should get so uptight about a subject and expect everyone to conform to their idea of utopia.

Both of them are in their mid forties and using words of their generation suggested you chill out and keep taking the tablets.

I would never suggest such a thing but do say that if I 'do not get it' then certainly you also do not get it.
 
Not really an idea, but normal expectations orf reasonable behaviour, I'd have thought.

If you move into a house next to a pub, you can expect noisy nights. OTOH, if you live in a quiet neighbourhood, and the guy next door turns his house into a pub, you can fairly object.
 
sighmoon said:
Not really an idea, but normal expectations orf reasonable behaviour, I'd have thought.

If you move into a house next to a pub, you can expect noisy nights. OTOH, if you live in a quiet neighbourhood, and the guy next door turns his house into a pub, you can fairly object.
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Yep totally agree, but one is a residence with fairly permanent occupants and the other is a Cala, Bay with 100% transient users.
 
DougH said:
[QUOTE if I 'do not get it' then certainly you also do not get it.
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DougH,
One thing you will never get from seeflush is compromise. Speaking as one who "will never get it as long he has a hole in his bum" (unquote) I have come to understand that there is of course only one true way, the seaflush way. It has to be cheap, non electrical, (he doesn't hold with electrickery) deeply uncomfortable and on water at least, can only be achieved with a yacht. Anybody who varies even slightly from this creed simply "doesn't get it".
 
blueglass said:
DougH,
One thing you will never get from seeflush is compromise. Speaking as one who "will never get it as long he has a hole in his bum" (unquote) I have come to understand that there is of course only one true way, the seaflush way. It has to be cheap, non electrical, (he doesn't hold with electrickery) deeply uncomfortable and on water at least, can only be achieved with a yacht. Anybody who varies even slightly from this creed simply "doesn't get it".
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Couldn't have put it better myself.

I call his life ideals self flagellation
 
A quiet Cala

EdBeynon said:
I haven't met anyone else in any of the anchorages I've used so far.
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You really need to get to this one then , still loadsofroom for latecomers looking for bit of peace and quiet.
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Ps.Actually busier at the stern of the boat out of shot,which is where the beach is.Probably possible to step ashore leaping from gin palace to gin palace.
However by the time Searush eventually arrives in his yot exactly the same place will look like this.
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It was obvious to me from reading

Voyages of a Simple Sailor, that Roger chose MingMing even though he could easily afford a larger/more luxurious vessel.
That might also be the difference on the perception of our surroundings that we sometimes experience when discussing things like these?
I can understand why someone finds Jetski's and other fast vessels fun, but to some of us - who cherish the nature and enjoy watching a porpoise or listening to birds - it just is inherently alien to run anything that detracts from that experience. Not saying that we are more right - but therein lies a big difference. :cool:

And never the twain shall meet :D
 
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Dear Sourdough,

"Voyages of a Simple Sailor" p175-6,
When I bought MingMing for, in ocean yachting terms, a paltry sum, I was in a position where I could comfortably have bought a boat costing twenty or thirty times as much.
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In fact most of chapter 7 specifically covers his enjoyment of simple sailing. Perhaps your friend needs to read his books a little more carefully? You could even try reading them for yourself too.:D

I'm sorry you are concerned about my stress levels, but I don't understand why. I am not upset or stressed in any way by you or what you or others do - you are significantly overestimating your importance in my life.

I enjoy what I do & don't actually care what you do. But I do think it's sad that you eschew the simple pleasures - but that's sad for you, not for me. So it goes.

I'm getting bored now, as no doubt is our readership (if any are left) I am not learning anything & doubt you will, the arguments are bringing no new ideas or challenges, so I suggest it is time to stop digging.

Enjoy all your toys, may you always have them.
 
EdBeynon said:
The North East. It can be a bit post industrial but it's peaceful.
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Ah know it well - born and bred in Cambois (over the river from Blyth if you know it)
One the most beautiful coastlines in England, unfortunately very few safe havens, though. If you can ever find the time to post some pics of your travels I for one would love to see them!
 
Mobo-wash-angry-sailors conflict \ sub-woofer speakers in passing cars crrelation

Wow! I've finished reading this entire thread (yes, I have way too much time on my hands these days) and it struck me how similar the mobo-wash-angry-sailors conflict is to another very different and yet in some ways oddly similar problem.

I grew up in New York City. I moved out to the wilds of the New Jersey suburbs with my wife and kids (somewhat reluctantly) about 12 years ago. One of the reasons I was finally willing to leave the neighborhood of my youth was directly due to one thing: sub-woofer speakers in passing cars. These speakers are mounted inside the trunk of the car. They are bass and sub-bass and VERY powerful. I could be in my basement when a car bearing sub-woofer speakers would come down our street (or as we say our "block"). I could feel the vibration of the sound without actually hearing what the "song" was. You feel it in your feet, legs, head and ears. You're not exactly "hearing" the sound. You're feeling it. Its inescapable. I wonder if the bad moboers are also the sub-woofer people. It would make an interesting sociology project if a correlation were found.
 
Yes it was a rather long and pointless thread, wasn't it? I can't believe I actually made it all the way through. I will never get that time back now. Oh well.

Perhaps those same people who play music loudly from their cars are cut from the same mould as people who drive big off-roaders. Which are, apparently, the same sort of people who will more likely drive whilst using their phone:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5107708.stm

All adds up to one thing- there exists a type of person who will do what they want, when they want, regardless of who is affected by their actions. I wonder whether such a person would prefer to buy a yacht or a mobo?
 
Robwhelton said:
Yes it was a rather long and pointless thread, wasn't it? I can't believe I actually made it all the way through. I will never get that time back now. Oh well.

Perhaps those same people who play music loudly from their cars are cut from the same mould as people who drive big off-roaders. Which are, apparently, the same sort of people who will more likely drive whilst using their phone:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5107708.stm

All adds up to one thing- there exists a type of person who will do what they want, when they want, regardless of who is affected by their actions. I wonder whether such a person would prefer to buy a yacht or a mobo?
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A mobo,they are much simpler to operate.
I also waded through this thread to see what all the fuss was about & like many of my fellow raggies escape out into the wilds to experience nature & get away from it all........ah sadly it is getting harder & harder to achieve.
I wonder what many motorboat owners get out of it,seriously! :confused:
 
kristifercolumnbus said:
A mobo,they are much simpler to operate.
I also waded through this thread to see what all the fuss was about & like many of my fellow raggies escape out into the wilds to experience nature & get away from it all........ah sadly it is getting harder & harder to achieve.
I wonder what many motorboat owners get out of it,seriously! :confused:
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to the last 3 posters. So sorry you had such an ordeal reading it all through, but for once I will agree with searush - now bored and time to lay it to rest. I will endeavour now to resist any response to further mobo baiting and allow your self rightous bigotry to speak for itself. I will turn up my mega sub base anti yottie woofer and drown you out.
 
blueglass said:
to the last 3 posters. So sorry you had such an ordeal reading it all through, but for once I will agree with searush - now bored and time to lay it to rest. I will endeavour now to resist any response to further mobo baiting and allow your self rightous bigotry to speak for itself. I will turn up my mega sub base anti yottie woofer and drown you out.
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Thanks for the parting shot... Best wishes to you too, buddy!
 
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