Nostrodamus
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There is something about the beer in Brighton. I had several pints the other day and I had real nausea. Nobody can tell me the effects the next day were all in my head. Well atually they were in my head. It really hurt.
Seasickness.. When is it too much?
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st599
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Just cook a nice, spicy curry and let the smell waft around the cabin. Instant cure! No more malingerers on requestmen and defaulters next morning.
Nostrodamus
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I was once told by a friend of course that his wife never used to get seasick whilst out on the water. However when they got into a marina and went to bed she always got nausea about five minutes later. Is there a cure?
Modulation
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So used I and found them very good. I noticed a report recently though that they have been withdrawn by the FDA in The USA as there was a suspicion that there active ingredients were implicated in some very serious side effect in some people.
Nostrodamus
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I may be wrong but I believe it was these tablets that were an offshoot from research into Parkinson’s disease.
I did not realise they had been withdrawn in the USA. I usually have a pack aboard or guests.
What side effects?
HinewaisMan
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Some musings…..
It is said there are 3 stages of seasickness
1. You’re feeling pretty crook
2. You’re feeling very crook – indeed, so bad that you get scared you might die
3. You are feeing so terrible that you are scared you won’t die.
Dry biscuits, Salada, Water Crackers are good to graze on – so is plain water made porridge – not so bad when it comes up again.
Been advised to avoid things with sugar when sick – something about the sugar and stomach acids doing nasty things to the oesophagus on the way back up
We carry Phenergan Suppositories aboard in case anyone is so sick they can keep nothing down.
Attached to the suppository pack is a vital application device – a set of straws for the rest of the crew to draw – one is cut short.
And you can’t buy Stugeron in Australia either – if heading there and want to make friends when visiting a yacht club, announce “I have Stugeron” in the bar.
It is said there are 3 stages of seasickness
1. You’re feeling pretty crook
2. You’re feeling very crook – indeed, so bad that you get scared you might die
3. You are feeing so terrible that you are scared you won’t die.
Dry biscuits, Salada, Water Crackers are good to graze on – so is plain water made porridge – not so bad when it comes up again.
Been advised to avoid things with sugar when sick – something about the sugar and stomach acids doing nasty things to the oesophagus on the way back up
We carry Phenergan Suppositories aboard in case anyone is so sick they can keep nothing down.
Attached to the suppository pack is a vital application device – a set of straws for the rest of the crew to draw – one is cut short.
And you can’t buy Stugeron in Australia either – if heading there and want to make friends when visiting a yacht club, announce “I have Stugeron” in the bar.
OGITD
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Thank You!!!!
Thanks Pal!!!.... it’s good to have a chuckle at the start of your day.
Thanks Pal!!!.... it’s good to have a chuckle at the start of your day.
Amulet
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Puked on a channel crossing a few weeks ago. On a Baltic 37, not my own boat. The last time I was seasick was 40 years ago, thiough I have sometimes felt a bit queasy since.
The day I was seasick was a cracking sailing day, I was enjoying myself, and had no anticipation of there being a problem - it took me completely by surprise. I therefore doubt that it was in my mind.
The motion of the boat is quite markedly different to that of my own wee boat, and, although I can't do the test, I feel certain I'd have been OK in my own boat.
Reports are common of ocean-going Masters deciding to go ashore in the pilot launch, and then being seasick.
The day I was seasick was a cracking sailing day, I was enjoying myself, and had no anticipation of there being a problem - it took me completely by surprise. I therefore doubt that it was in my mind.
The motion of the boat is quite markedly different to that of my own wee boat, and, although I can't do the test, I feel certain I'd have been OK in my own boat.
Reports are common of ocean-going Masters deciding to go ashore in the pilot launch, and then being seasick.
Scotty_Tradewind
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Any amount is too much. Those that suffer will know what I mean. Already mentioned, its not only the sickness it's the depression which can put the sufferer at risk to his/herself and to the safety of the crew and boat in the wrong situation.
Many postings on this previously, but swmbo uses Scopoderm.... worth putting in a search. http://www.ybw.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4215982
Totally transformed her ability to sail in all conditions.
Many postings on this previously, but swmbo uses Scopoderm.... worth putting in a search. http://www.ybw.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4215982
Totally transformed her ability to sail in all conditions.
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alant
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Sea sickness medication, is usually a anti hystamine - used for hayfever sufferers.
I count myself lucky, that I suffer from neither & can go below & stick my head into a bilge attending to something without any effects.
I am convinced, that seasickness is something you have or havenot.
Its the luck of the draw & nothing to do with looking at horizons/eating gingers nuts (or whatever other perversion you may enjoy), simply luck.
Touchwood
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I have never suffered from sea-sickness, and until reading this thread was pretty smug about it. I now wonder if anyone is completely immune? Perhaps I just haven't met the circumstance yet? If I do, I'll be completely unprepared for it, not good.
Can anyone else claim to have never suffered, or had it come upon them unexpectedly after many years of never being afflicted?
Can anyone else claim to have never suffered, or had it come upon them unexpectedly after many years of never being afflicted?
Scotty_Tradewind
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I think you'r right... but there are often ways for the unfortunate ones, to find something to increase their 'luck'
Scotty_Tradewind
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Yes.
Before Scopoderm, my wife and pal and I, sailed anticlockwise around the Isle of Wight in my Twister.
Shortly after rounding the Needles swmbo became unwell and retired below to lay down.
After a short while i could see that even laying down proved a failure. I went down below to a projectile vomit hitting me, the headlining and all over the nav' desk. It took me a good while to comfort swmbo and to clear up the result.
I went up through the companionway to immediatly projectile vomit into the cockpit right in front of my pal on the tiller. He soon felt unwell too at the sight and smell which we soon had washed away with bucketfuls of salt water.
It was a very long 12 hour trip!
I'd never been seasick before and only felt a teeny bit queezy a handful of times since.
I'm very luckily not had to take any medication either.
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Victoria Sponge
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My dad was in the navy. He always said that given the right sea conditions everyone on board was seasick, even the sailors who'd been sailing for years and years.
There's some pretty odd stuff posted on here about getting seasick. For example Nauticalnomad claims getting seasick is like depression. How on earth does he arrive at that ridiculous conclusion?
There's some pretty odd stuff posted on here about getting seasick. For example Nauticalnomad claims getting seasick is like depression. How on earth does he arrive at that ridiculous conclusion?
Scotty_Tradewind
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One crew who made a long trip during the south seas section on one of the 'round the world' yachts, developed seasickness a few days out and then suffered for weeks during his whole voyage. It was reported by a friend and fellow crew on that boat that he became very depressed during that trip and remained so long after the trip was over.
If you've never been seasick, it may advise you better to talk to a number of those who have?
Whatever chemical or physical imbalances occur in the body they can be potentially very serious.
Victoria Sponge
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Perhaps I misunderstood the comparison. I know full well that being seasick can make you feel like you want to die, pretty much like depression. Perhaps that's what he meant. I read it as seasickness being a malady of the mind, and I don't believe that is the full story.
Grehan
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Well, I'm sorry, but with all due respect to some other posters here, I'm disappointed by some of these comments.
Given circumstances, almost everybody can suffer from sea sickness. If Admiral Nelson could, anyone can. Sickness caused by a motion that we have not become acclimatised to. Some people are more susceptible than others. Some forms of motion are worse than others. But the effect is truly horrible, completely debilitating and the possibility of it happening must be taken seriously by any skipper. It might happen to his/her crew; worse, it might happen to themselves.
Instead of this cheery, gung-ho, macho, it's all in the mind (is that a troll?), pull yourself together, sea dog stuff it would be far better (more seamanlike) to recognise the fact and maybe take some precautions in advance (and find out in advance what works and what don't). It's so easy. There'd be less only-partially-under-control boats, less agony for the sufferers, and maybe more wives enjoying sailing with their spouses.
Personally, I find ginger works, mostly, as do anti-histamine tablets, Stugeron, etc. Taking the helm certainly works, but you can't take the helm forever, and you can't put someone who's gone beyond a certain point of illness on the helm, safely, or without watching them closely.
Not completely off-subject, I am reminded by one of Mike Peyton's cartoons about 'peeing over the side while hanging onto a backstay'. If you're too ill to want to go below, or you're on the helm alone, then surely your cockpit is self-draining? If it ain't, you're in trouble.
Given circumstances, almost everybody can suffer from sea sickness. If Admiral Nelson could, anyone can. Sickness caused by a motion that we have not become acclimatised to. Some people are more susceptible than others. Some forms of motion are worse than others. But the effect is truly horrible, completely debilitating and the possibility of it happening must be taken seriously by any skipper. It might happen to his/her crew; worse, it might happen to themselves.
Instead of this cheery, gung-ho, macho, it's all in the mind (is that a troll?), pull yourself together, sea dog stuff it would be far better (more seamanlike) to recognise the fact and maybe take some precautions in advance (and find out in advance what works and what don't). It's so easy. There'd be less only-partially-under-control boats, less agony for the sufferers, and maybe more wives enjoying sailing with their spouses.
Personally, I find ginger works, mostly, as do anti-histamine tablets, Stugeron, etc. Taking the helm certainly works, but you can't take the helm forever, and you can't put someone who's gone beyond a certain point of illness on the helm, safely, or without watching them closely.
Not completely off-subject, I am reminded by one of Mike Peyton's cartoons about 'peeing over the side while hanging onto a backstay'. If you're too ill to want to go below, or you're on the helm alone, then surely your cockpit is self-draining? If it ain't, you're in trouble.
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Sandyman
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In the man only macho environment of the Navy seasickness was something only wimps suffered from and people for some reason took great delight at making sufferers feel worse by waving lumps of gristle & greasy bacon sarnies infront of them. Always thought it strange why they did that.
Remember having one Doctor, (Scablifter in Naval terms) on one of the ships I was on who
had his own treatment for regular sufferers. He would routinely syringe their ears out to remove excess wax. Cant say I ever had that treatment but recall many folk found it helped.
I dont think its considered good medical practice these days but it seemed to work.
Remember having one Doctor, (Scablifter in Naval terms) on one of the ships I was on who
had his own treatment for regular sufferers. He would routinely syringe their ears out to remove excess wax. Cant say I ever had that treatment but recall many folk found it helped.
I dont think its considered good medical practice these days but it seemed to work.
guernseyman
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SWMBO has sailed all her life and never even suffered nausea.
My father, not a yottie, but a traveller on the the ferries to England and France, never suffered until the one time he used a hydrofoil to England. He thought the motion was so different that it got to him.
KenMcCulloch
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I think probably he's inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity. I think there's some truth in the idea that expecting to be seasick will may you tense and anxious and therefore more likely etc.. However as many here have said, almost anyone can be seasick given the right combination of circumstances and to claim that it's all entirely in the mind is ludicrous. I find lack of sleep makes me susceptible.