powerskipper
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I like the 38 and the new 47 looks good /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sealine dump Excel
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Whitelighter
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I thought the hull was dark blue on that boat?
Only thing I didnt like was the yellow band, all a bit 1985 sunseeker for my taste
Only thing I didnt like was the yellow band, all a bit 1985 sunseeker for my taste
nicho
RIP
Many car manufacturers ditched the London Motor show at Excel this year, a trend that will accelerate. It's in the wrong place, and it's too difficult for most to get to.
powerskipper
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I have been told it is also very expensive to put peeps at the show, notice all the Hotel prices for that week are increased.
ari
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I suspect it's unlikely that this was a choice for Sealine managment.
However, it will open the door to other big names if they've considered pulling out of Excel and haven't dared be the first to do it.
Given that attendances have fallen every year since it opened I believe (and are now a long way under the level that Earls Court was said to be unviable at, hence the move), it's got to be a case of ever diminishing returns on a huge investment, and now in difficult times.
Be interesting to see whether others decide to follow Sealines lead, whether Sealine were forced into their decision to pull out or not. If a couple more of the "big boys" did, then you can be damn sure most of the smaller companies would feel that the presence/cost was no longer necessary and the show would collapse.
And of course if the new Earls Court show then provided them with a much lower cost alternative, we could even see the whole thing go full circle!
I wonder if Sealine will decide to put a couple of boats into Earls Court show as a low cost alternative?
However, it will open the door to other big names if they've considered pulling out of Excel and haven't dared be the first to do it.
Given that attendances have fallen every year since it opened I believe (and are now a long way under the level that Earls Court was said to be unviable at, hence the move), it's got to be a case of ever diminishing returns on a huge investment, and now in difficult times.
Be interesting to see whether others decide to follow Sealines lead, whether Sealine were forced into their decision to pull out or not. If a couple more of the "big boys" did, then you can be damn sure most of the smaller companies would feel that the presence/cost was no longer necessary and the show would collapse.
And of course if the new Earls Court show then provided them with a much lower cost alternative, we could even see the whole thing go full circle!
I wonder if Sealine will decide to put a couple of boats into Earls Court show as a low cost alternative?
stelican
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I spoke to someone in the trade and the space has been snapped up already. plus the big boys are taking more space!
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Makes perfect sense to me. LIBS is far too close to Dusseldorf and is pathetic in comparison. It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market. Excel is in the wrong place anyway and the exhibitors hate it for it's location and high cost. I predict in 10yrs time there will only be one UK boat show and that will be SIBS
Nautical
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Good point but also add, for us we can have five boats at Dusseldorf for the price of three at Excel, why on earth would we pay those prices and all the hassle factor for a tiny show compared to Dusseldorf. For our genuine clients we can fly them all out to Dusseldorf, see the entire 8 boat range, put them up in Five star accommodation, a very posh evening show party, flash car transfers etc and still have change. So guess you can strike another builder off the Excel list !
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Maybe LIBS and the rest of the UK exhibition industry will get the message then. My manufacturers exhibit all over the world and they tell me that the UK is the most expensive place in the world to exhibit in terms of the cost of the space and all the ancillary expenses. Rip off Britain strikes again
For anyone that hasn't been to the Dusseldorf show, it's loads better than LIBS but you need at least 2 days to do it all
For anyone that hasn't been to the Dusseldorf show, it's loads better than LIBS but you need at least 2 days to do it all
petem
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It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market.
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4 shows if you count the Boat and Caravan show at NEC.
Pete
It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market.
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4 shows if you count the Boat and Caravan show at NEC.
Pete
AdeOlly
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My guess is that Brunswick in the US, where the leisure boat market makes the UK looks positively bouyant, have told Sealine in no uncertain terms they need to stand on their own two feet or sink. Sealine will have done their sums and figured that LIBS is such a money wasting exercise it simply can't be maintined.
burgundyben
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It makes a mockery of all the press releases at Boat Show (BS....) time that read "Sales up" and "27 boats sold on first day" etc etc.
vitalspark
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No one I know liked the venue anyway.
The downturn is inevitable, but while I agree that dropping your profile down at this time is not the right marketing strategy.
The budget has got to be reinvested it in a more rationalised way.....
As for the rest they will follow to a greater or lesser extent
The downturn is inevitable, but while I agree that dropping your profile down at this time is not the right marketing strategy.
The budget has got to be reinvested it in a more rationalised way.....
As for the rest they will follow to a greater or lesser extent
SolentPhill
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I spoke to someone in the trade and the space has been snapped up already. plus the big boys are taking more space!
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They have only sold enough space to fill 3/4 of one hall I was told today.
I spoke to someone in the trade and the space has been snapped up already. plus the big boys are taking more space!
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They have only sold enough space to fill 3/4 of one hall I was told today.
ari
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It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market.
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4 shows if you count the Boat and Caravan show at NEC.
Pete
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Were Sealine at all four shows..? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market.
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4 shows if you count the Boat and Caravan show at NEC.
Pete
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Were Sealine at all four shows..? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
halcyon
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Not a new thing, back in the 1990's Tom would not do the NEC on cost grounds, SIB's was the main working show, EC was more meet the customers.
At this time Kidderminster was producing 40 + boats a month with staff levels at about the same as the new reduced level, and around 80% of the boats were export.
At this time Kidderminster was producing 40 + boats a month with staff levels at about the same as the new reduced level, and around 80% of the boats were export.
petem
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It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market.
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4 shows if you count the Boat and Caravan show at NEC.
Pete
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Were Sealine at all four shows..? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Did I say they were /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif ?
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It's a nonsense anyway to have 3 (if you count Earls Ct) boatshows for one market.
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4 shows if you count the Boat and Caravan show at NEC.
Pete
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Were Sealine at all four shows..? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Did I say they were /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif ?
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
I would be very interested to know who that person was, also could you recommend which comedy club he will be playing in on Friday?
DAKA
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Surly it makes sense to build sealines in the factory in the states along side Bayliners.
Alright they would loose some of the 'British Built' cred but does that really stand for much ?
Do Sealine owners care if they are made in England, USA or Mexico ?
Bayliner and Sealine can then share boat show stands.
I have always found the Boat Shows to be an irritant, when you need something, the marine trade is effectively closed for two weeks like Christmas shut down only the shows happen several times a year while the staff clear off to play at the show.
Only time I go to the shows is when I have to meet the staff who should be at work !
The exhibitors falsify boat sale volumes by selling boats before and getting clients to turn up at the show to sign for an extra discount, the sale was already made, away from the show where the discounts are more flexible because the staff have more time to fine tune quotes and look at Pt ex deals.
Alright they would loose some of the 'British Built' cred but does that really stand for much ?
Do Sealine owners care if they are made in England, USA or Mexico ?
Bayliner and Sealine can then share boat show stands.
I have always found the Boat Shows to be an irritant, when you need something, the marine trade is effectively closed for two weeks like Christmas shut down only the shows happen several times a year while the staff clear off to play at the show.
Only time I go to the shows is when I have to meet the staff who should be at work !
The exhibitors falsify boat sale volumes by selling boats before and getting clients to turn up at the show to sign for an extra discount, the sale was already made, away from the show where the discounts are more flexible because the staff have more time to fine tune quotes and look at Pt ex deals.
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
Good points apart from the one about playing at shows....I wish
