Sealine 310/320/330

[Henrik_Swe]

I'm considering buying a Sealine statesman 310/320/330 with volvo diesel engines (200HP). I've read some of the comments of the boats in this forum, and from what I understand many considering the boat to be too light and therefore doesn't perform well in windy conditions?

A test on a Sealine 310 here in sweden said quite the opposite. They were very happy with the handling and pretty much everything else.

I haven't quite decided between the various models, I think the 330 has a nicer flybridge and a more modern look tha the 310/320. But I like the interior and planning in the 310/320 more.. any thoughs between those models in any aspect?

Also I would be happy if someone have facts about the fuelconsumption in 20 knots with the ad41's? Common errors? electrical problems?

Will be grateful for all thoughs of these boats!

Regards

Henrik

 

[gcwhite]

If you can afford it go for a Fairline, Princess or Sunseeker. They are all much better quality and heavier construction which doesn't allways mean better, but it does in this case. Fuel consumption I have no experience with these engines but Volvo 63p's do about 0.8 mpg at 25 knotts.

 

[Wiggo]

Oh, for God's sake can we let this one drop? Do you know of many Fairline or Sunseeker flybridge models of, say, 33' length?

We've owned both a Fairline and Sealine, and to be absolutely honest, I can see no difference in construction quality. It's worse than bloody Bayliner bashing. If they were that shoddily built, do you not think MBM might have noticed, having run three in succession as magazine boats?

 

[Renegade_Master]

Here Here Wiggo, its whats called brand name snobbery.

Sfunny how Sealine sold about 60-70 boats at the show last year.

 

[Roy]

A great brand and superb value for money with style and innovation too. Incidentally, the Prosser Marine Dealership of Glasgow where i bought mine from, actually sell more sealines than any other sealine outlet and consistently sell the largest percentage of sealines at both london soton shows. Why? Total commitment to the brand name I suspect.

 

[Roy]

Hello Henrik, Have had my F33 almost a year now - it is very like or near identical to the 330. A great boat. On stern drives whether or not with a bowthruster, the boat is easily moved at close quarters even in windy conditions provided you drive a bit harder...... Others on this forum have lots of good to say too and a few have not. Great value for money and strongly built - especially compared to USA built boats like Searay, Maxum and Bayliner. I wanted a F37 like Wiggo has but could not afford it this time. Perhaps next time though but ideally I want an F43 in a year or two. Best wishes and sorry can't help on your engine figures.

 

[Henrik_Swe]

Roy, thank you for you sharing your experience with your boat! I also think those sealine models offer great value for money! Did you consider buying a 310/320 instead of the F33? In the cabin, how many do you tend to sit around the table?

What do you think is the biggest downside with the F33 apart from it´s size from what I understand you want?

I haven't had the chance to actually try one out, but I'm wondering about the soundlevel? Is it quiet or noisy?

Thanks,

Henrik

 

[gcwhite]

They did notice; read the S42 report in MBY.
I agree they are good value for money, but you get what you pay for.

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[gcwhite]

Sound levels are normal; remember they are outdrives which means the engines are well to the stern.
Seating for dining is about 4
You should try one in a choppy sea. You will find them rather frisky, any small wash will make them deviate. Handling in a marina is easy if you centre the outdrives and operate only by throttle although wind affect can be considerable. They are, however, good value for money.
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[Roy]

Hi Henrik

We did not compare with any other sealine, but have driven almost every model. Its just that this one came up - 3 years old and in brand new condition with only 63 hours on. Could not pass it up. Have not found a downside on it all. I make allowances for the boat of course because everything can be improved, but i make more allowances for myself. We can seat 4 around the dining area or even 10 if kids are there!! Whenever possible, we use the excellent cockpit table and that area instead. Great idea and it all stows in overhead locker as does canopy covers and ropes, boathooks etc etc. Lots of locker spaces and huge lazarette and also dry bilge areas too. Ours has kad 32s and makes a bit of noise at full throttle 3850 or so but at 3250 quite acceptable at which 23 knots come easily in spite of carrying a set of simpson s 7 davits, 2.85m zodiac and 6hp o/b. Anyway up on the flybridge you just hear the water hissing past but in the cockpit you hear the engine noise a bit. Inside saloon noise is acceptable. Theres a couple of people on here you should PM - Peter and Jeanette who have had (may still own) an F33 and they took it up and down the thames many times and roulnd the channel with several runs across to europe ports etc. They advised me a great deal before I bought mine. They have now moved up to a lovely Fairline 40 and are far more knowledgeable than I am. Best wishes. Roy

 

[Wiggo]

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I agree they are good value for money, but you get what you pay for.

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Errm, that'd be 'good value' then, yes?

Seriously, I crawled all over a Phantom 40 over summer with a couple of other forumites. What struck me most was the lavishness with which it had been fitted out. It left me with the overriding impression that it was a Ford Mondeo trying to be a Bentley. Sorry if I have offended anyone with a new P40, but it's just my opinion...

 

[danielbroad]

We've just been through the process of buying a flybridge boat of roughy this size, and I can offer a couple of simplistic observations although we didn't sea trial the Sealine.

The Sealine is somewhat narrow and lightweight for her length relative to the other boats we looked at - the particular example we looked at was a 330 i think - 1993 and had mainly been used on a river so was a pretty low spec (not even a gps!). Unfortunately whilst from the outside it looked great the inside was very cramped - the galley was in the main living area which only consisted of one table anyway. Although they had managed to squeeze two other cabins into her she was very cramped.

It didn't help that the example we saw had not been well looked after - the outdrives were almost invisible in terms of the weed that was covering them and one of the engines wouldn't even start. Some of the fixtures and fittings were literally falling off e.g. cupboard doors - the laminated wood dashboard was cracked.

I think possibly Sealines sales strategy does sometimes attract less experienced owners which was possibly the case with the one we saw.

Sealine is just mass market boating (if there is such a thing), having had a Bayliner for 4 years previous to our current boat there's nothing wrong with that. As someone who does my own maintenance and installation work and looks behind all the fixtures and fittings the difference in the construction of our current Fairline is fairly dramatic and gives me a lot of confidence in the boat.

 

[peterandjeanette]

As with most things, if it has been well looked after, it is a super boat. Fully agree with Roy on what he says. My F33 did everything we asked of her. Admittedly, there was usually only the two of us for our extended cruises across the Channel, but then we are rather anti - social buggers. So the space given was more than enough.

She never let me down and I always felt safe in her. Yes I always had the engines serviced regularly, yes I think I know when it is better to stay in the marina and open another bottle of wine rather than brave the elements. That is common sense.

Value for money, IMHO, there is none better in that size range.

 

[nicho]

<I agree they are good value for money........>

A back handed compliment if ever there was one!! Sealines have moved a very long way forward in the past decade. As the owner of 6 Sealines in total (not at the same time!), including a 310 statesman, and an F33 (last one being an S37), I can tell you they are indeed well built, very reliable, and (the S37 in particular) have 'seakindly' hulls. You hear of very few complaints from Sealine owners about their products, unlike some of the others mentioned.

With regards to the original question, our F33 was a cracking little boat, though in my opinion, perhaps a bit short for a flybridge. Mrs Nicho was never too happy on top, 'cos she felt it was a bit too "tippy" (her words), when travelling in roughish water, especially at displacement speeds, as in the entrance to Cowes on a busy weekend - it's the reason we changed to the S37.

Incidentally, having toured the Sealine factory twice, during the build of both our F33 and S37, I can assure you the quality of workmanship, especially in the bits you can't normally see, and the workforce' pride in their workmanship, is excellant. Apart from a bit of scratching on the high gloss woodwork (quickly sorted), our boats were all very good.

 

[Henrik_Swe]

Roy, sound like you're really happy with your Sealine which sounds great for a potential buyer like myself! Thank you! I have looked at various other boats and I must say that the Sealine wins over many of them... there is one other though, the Galeon 330. Its similar to the Sealine 330 but its a bit more of everything.. Manufactured in Polen (polonia?)

danielbroad,

I must say that I have on the sealines I´ve seen, the same impression about their second hand condition! They are rarley in mint condition and I can't see why? From what I´ve seen, the second hand boats in the same range in sweden or even in germany are better looked after... Might be me having bad luck so far...

Peter and Jeanette, interesting to hear that you´ve went across the channel, where did you go and what average speed did you travel in if I might ask?
If I buy a boat in the UK, it would be fun to take it home and go across the channel up to sweden, if it (or I) can take the seas... I´m still not sure weather to do that or just have it shipped...!

Henrik

 

[nicho]

...and not many 33' boats with 63P's either!!

 

[peterandjeanette]

Several trips down the Thames, then after re-fuelling at Ramsgate across to Dunkirk or Calais/Boulogne. Been all along the French coast to Dieppe, Fecamp, LeHavre, Honfleur, Carentan, Cherbourg. Also South UK coast from Ramsgate to Southampton to Lulworth Cove. Crossing the Channel from Southampton/Brighton/Eastbourne and Dover. No problem!

Usually cruise at 24 kts although boat will push 30 kts if necessary. Don't like to push too hard over extended runs. F33 runs quite happily all day at 24 kts.

 

[gcwhite]

The quality reflects the cheaper price. The F33 for example uses plastic veneer not wood. The review of the S42 refered to above exposed shoddy workmanship behind the scenes.
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[gcwhite]

The quality reflects the cheaper price. The F33 for example uses plastic veneer not wood. The review of the S42 refered to above exposed shoddy workmanship behind the scenes.
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[Roy]

F33 uses a little plastic laminate, lots of real wood, some wood veneered wood, teak flooring, teak decking and steps. Solid wood table to saloon. Get the facts mac.