mldpt
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I am looking for some scrap display units from either or Stow and Autohelm ST50 wind instrument.
Mike
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Scrap wind instrument display
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tome
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What for?
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mldpt
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tome
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Fun idea - I'll keep my eyes peeled!
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cgull
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Will it be a wind up clock????
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mldpt
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I can't quite figure out your idea, but if you are serious I would try any local charter companies (Sunsail, moorings etc.) when I worked out in Turkey the clients used to smash them with alarming frequency, usually with a well aimed winch handle.
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Dominic
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Yes, Scrap the instruments
I totally agree with your title.
You should use your senses. Can´t you see and feel and hear what the wind is doing ?
(Having only recently been sailing a yacht with wind instruments and finding that they don´t work - I never let the students look at them anyway)
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I totally agree with your title.
You should use your senses. Can´t you see and feel and hear what the wind is doing ?
(Having only recently been sailing a yacht with wind instruments and finding that they don´t work - I never let the students look at them anyway)
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vyv_cox
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Re: Yes, Scrap the instruments
Why not use your senses AND the instruments? Personally, I like to use all the information I can find, so I have a masthead Hawk as well as B&G speed and direction indicators. Is the Hawk an instrument? Do my eyes qualify as senses? What about telltales? Are we allowed to have them in your super-sensitive sailing world? In the face of such a closed mind, I'm glad I'm not one of your students.
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Why not use your senses AND the instruments? Personally, I like to use all the information I can find, so I have a masthead Hawk as well as B&G speed and direction indicators. Is the Hawk an instrument? Do my eyes qualify as senses? What about telltales? Are we allowed to have them in your super-sensitive sailing world? In the face of such a closed mind, I'm glad I'm not one of your students.
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claymore
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Is the medication balance in need of adjustment?
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tome
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Re: Yes, Scrap the instruments
Spot on
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Spot on
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mldpt
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I am sure it is but should put it right at the laying up supper with Ferrit on Saturday.
I have several holes in my instrument panel , having sold my redundent wind instrument(previous Post apparently we shouldnt use instruments to sail I have sold my echosounder as well gone back to lead line, sold my log also now throwing knots over the side) so I am filling the spaces with scrap ones.
Regards Mike,
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I have several holes in my instrument panel , having sold my redundent wind instrument(previous Post apparently we shouldnt use instruments to sail I have sold my echosounder as well gone back to lead line, sold my log also now throwing knots over the side) so I am filling the spaces with scrap ones.
Regards Mike,
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mldpt
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I cant believe the interest this has raised. All I want ar a couple of display units to put in the holes left after changing my instrument layout. I intend to fill them with water and put gold fish in them, I should perhaps point out that two weeks ago I had a knee replacement opp and I thing the anisthetic has not worn off yet.
Regards Mike. I am also very bored sitting around doing nothing.
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Regards Mike. I am also very bored sitting around doing nothing.
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Twister_Ken
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A slight upgrade
Apparently Concorde's spares are being <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.426391.0.as_the_big_bird_lands_concorde_auction_is_set_for_take_off.php>auctioned off</A> - you should be able to fit a very impressive cockpit instrument display from that source
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Apparently Concorde's spares are being <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.426391.0.as_the_big_bird_lands_concorde_auction_is_set_for_take_off.php>auctioned off</A> - you should be able to fit a very impressive cockpit instrument display from that source
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mldpt
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Re: A slight upgrade
Strangley enough in the 60's i worked on Concorde, making things like toilet door hinges and catches so I have very smart door furniture on my boat.
Mike
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Strangley enough in the 60's i worked on Concorde, making things like toilet door hinges and catches so I have very smart door furniture on my boat.
Mike
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Robin
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Have to Agree
Way back in the early 70's I did dinghy instruction at an inland club and had to teach beginners 'by the book' ie 'RYA rules OK'. This meant no wind indicator allowed at all (how many dinghies don't have a burgee up?) and tacking by numbers (place the mainsheet under your thumb on the tiller tack body with bum forward etc). Total beginners found it very difficult and I spent much of their time afloat trying to explain how to 'feel' the wind direction. To my mind if you learn WITH an indicator your senses learn to do it by feel as you get better at it.
Like you we have a very full set of wind instruments Windspeed, Direction, Closehauled Wind and VMG as well as a Hawk indicator on the VHF aerial. Our roller genoa has sets of luff telltales at 3 different reef positions, our mainsail has leech telltales as well. We have marked track positions for the genoa cars to correspond with different reef marks on the genoa, oh and an inclinometer to remind me we go faster at <25degs even though more seems OK. BUT SWMBO has been shouted at from the loo before for pinching because I can sense we are 'out of the groove' and no, we don't have repeaters there!
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Way back in the early 70's I did dinghy instruction at an inland club and had to teach beginners 'by the book' ie 'RYA rules OK'. This meant no wind indicator allowed at all (how many dinghies don't have a burgee up?) and tacking by numbers (place the mainsheet under your thumb on the tiller tack body with bum forward etc). Total beginners found it very difficult and I spent much of their time afloat trying to explain how to 'feel' the wind direction. To my mind if you learn WITH an indicator your senses learn to do it by feel as you get better at it.
Like you we have a very full set of wind instruments Windspeed, Direction, Closehauled Wind and VMG as well as a Hawk indicator on the VHF aerial. Our roller genoa has sets of luff telltales at 3 different reef positions, our mainsail has leech telltales as well. We have marked track positions for the genoa cars to correspond with different reef marks on the genoa, oh and an inclinometer to remind me we go faster at <25degs even though more seems OK. BUT SWMBO has been shouted at from the loo before for pinching because I can sense we are 'out of the groove' and no, we don't have repeaters there!
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Fill
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Re: Have to Agree
I go along with Tom Cunliffe, who remarked that wind instruments were there to scare the crew.
A friend is quite OK until she sees just what the wind speed is, translates knots into Beaufort scale and then complains the wind is too strong. Eg "Omigod its F7, we must reef"
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I go along with Tom Cunliffe, who remarked that wind instruments were there to scare the crew.
A friend is quite OK until she sees just what the wind speed is, translates knots into Beaufort scale and then complains the wind is too strong. Eg "Omigod its F7, we must reef"
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Robin
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Yes But
Isn't he an RYA YM Instructor/Examiner? Sounds like a good one liner - would you tell a traffic cop the speedo was covered up so as not to frighten the passengers?
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Isn't he an RYA YM Instructor/Examiner? Sounds like a good one liner - would you tell a traffic cop the speedo was covered up so as not to frighten the passengers?
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Laurin
Member
Re: Have to Agree
Only time I nearly lost my rag during my YM exam one of the crew kept hitting the button to switch between apparent and true wind to see if we had got to 40Knots. The comment was something along the lines of "we know it's f****** windy without you pressing that button".
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Only time I nearly lost my rag during my YM exam one of the crew kept hitting the button to switch between apparent and true wind to see if we had got to 40Knots. The comment was something along the lines of "we know it's f****** windy without you pressing that button".
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Dominic
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Re: Yes, Scrap the instruments
"Why not use your senses AND the instruments?"
Yes, you are right.
I was mocking the desperate need for instruments and electronic displays to tell us what we can already see/hear/feel.
Secondly - I never seem to find (electronic) ones that work accurately. They seem to give exactly the same indication as the skin of my face /burgees etc when working and wildly false information when not working.
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"Why not use your senses AND the instruments?"
Yes, you are right.
I was mocking the desperate need for instruments and electronic displays to tell us what we can already see/hear/feel.
Secondly - I never seem to find (electronic) ones that work accurately. They seem to give exactly the same indication as the skin of my face /burgees etc when working and wildly false information when not working.
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