sanlorenzo experts?

I don't think there are any San Lorenzo experts on here! FWIW I can tell you that we bought our current Ferretti direct from San Lorenzo last year (they had taken it as a trade in) and whilst completing the purchase we took the opportunity to wander around the factory and inspect some San Lorenzo boats including the SL62. The 62 is still in production today which I guess tells you that it has been a successful design for SL. We were very impressed by SL's build quality and attention to detail overall and this is just my personal opinion but I think SLs are a class above mainstream planing power boats from Ferretti and others. I guess the SL62 you're looking at will have the MAN V12 engines. Obviously you will know that BartW of this parish has had an issue with a MAN V12 engine on his boat so as with any engines of this vintage you've got to get them thoroughly checked out by a qualified technician before you buy. Aside from that I liked the SL62's layout except for 2 areas. First, the headroom in the engine bay on the SL62 I looked at was poor and at 6' 1" I could barely crouch in it so doing maintenance down there could be an issue. Second, IMHO this size of boat is right on the limit for carrying it's tender on the flybridge and on the SL62 the flybidge felt significantly smaller compared to boats that carry their tenders on the bathing platform. I did not have an opportunity to seatrial a SL62 or any other SL but by reputation, SLs all have pretty good hulls with deeper vees than many other planing boats
 
Deleted User said:
Aside from that I liked the SL62's layout except for 2 areas. First, the headroom in the engine bay on the SL62 I looked at was poor and at 6' 1" I could barely crouch in it so doing maintenance down there could be an issue. Second, IMHO this size of boat is right on the limit for carrying it's tender on the flybridge and on the SL62 the flybidge felt significantly smaller compared to boats that carry their tenders on the bathing platform
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I got into the 62 after seeing a 57 in detail, which looked really nice from inside (materials, workmanship, layout, utilization of space etc), not so much the outside which I found really dated. Although the use of space is amazing for boat that size, still it's a bit too small for my (anticipated) needs. The 62 seems to solve these issues by being a little bit bigger without moving into a whole different category and it has a much better exterior (I would say one of the best design I've seen).

The SL57 has the tender on the platform and the fly is actually quite spacious (although bare...), while the 62 probably is not as big given the space lost to the tender and because of the central post and wing holding the antennas in this particular model/year.

This being said I eventually thought of adding a lift platform to extend the fairly small original one and provide space for a jetski.

Regarding engines... unfortunately the only thing in my opinion is to prepare psychologically for a rebuild and negotiate accordingly. an inspection is definitely useful in spotting really poorly maintained engines but will not say much about how much it's left in them. These are still original but according to the broker serviced regularly by a scrupulous owner. all to be verified.
 
WorstCase said:
I got into the 62 after seeing a 57 in detail, which looked really nice from inside (materials, workmanship, layout, utilization of space etc), not so much the outside which I found really dated. Although the use of space is amazing for boat that size, still it's a bit too small for my (anticipated) needs. The 62 seems to solve these issues by being a little bit bigger without moving into a whole different category and it has a much better exterior (I would say one of the best design I've seen).

The SL57 has the tender on the platform and the fly is actually quite spacious (although bare...), while the 62 probably is not as big given the space lost to the tender and because of the central post and wing holding the antennas in this particular model/year.

This being said I eventually thought of adding a lift platform to extend the fairly small original one and provide space for a jetski.

Regarding engines... unfortunately the only thing in my opinion is to prepare psychologically for a rebuild and negotiate accordingly. an inspection is definitely useful in spotting really poorly maintained engines but will not say much about how much it's left in them. These are still original but according to the broker serviced regularly by a scrupulous owner. all to be verified.
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I had to google images for the SL62, but this is absolutely a stunning looking boat,
and correct me if I'm wrong, but that 1994 model looks very much the same like the actual SL range which I like so much !
do you mind posting a link, or many pics of the boat you have in mind, I found 2 x 94 boats for sale...,
so we can have a closer look,

agree with Deleted User, not much SL experience on here,
I visited the SL factory in Ameglia a few years ago, and was deeply impressed by the building quality, but can't give any comments on the specific model / year.

About the Man engines,
after all my experience, MAN would still be my first choice for this range of boat size,
I can clearly explain what happened with my engine, and know now how to do preventive maintenance on such a engine,
service and parts are well available, and affordeable.
I can make a summery what to look for when you would be doing a survey or a trial,

the bathing platform on the Sl62 is indeed a bit small.
I think that a H+B lift platform could perfectly by integrated on this boat, and be a very usefull addition.
I have a very good relation with H+B, meet them each year at boot Dusseldorf and Metz, ppl are very helpfull and nice to deal with.
when needed I can introduce you to them,
budget for the platform is approx 20...25keuro, exclusive installation, which I did myself with help of a few freinds.

very interesting boat, pls keep us posted !
 
The new SL62 (2008 onwards) is a bit different from the 1994 to 1999 produced 62. They share bits of the hull the rest was completely redesigned.

There is not much to fault of the 62, it is in small words a small ship with a planning hull.
One thing I never liked much about it, was the spartan finished crew cabin aft (unless otherwise specified), the rest was a cut (a big cut) above the rest.
All the SL62s nineties that i know off came powered with MANs 1100hp which could do about 30 knots on a light to medium load situation.
A captain who did deliveries for them told me that hull one was powered with Man 820hp but I never saw this boat anywhere.
I am not sure I would extend the platform of a SL62, I saw a factory extended SL70 once which I liked, but that is all I can say.

In 1999 I did a consultancy for an Italian client who ended up buying a VZ18 for the bathing platform reason, though he still preferred the 62 for the space volume and timeless lines it offered.
The bathing platform was an issue for his wife, and when I suggested to buy a 62 and extend the platform his tongue in cheek reply was that you cannot buy the Mona Lisa and give it to Picasso to edit it.

She is in looks and also the conservative materials inside still a classic, and in my books looks nicer to most newer boats around. An SL62 will be a boat that will grace any marina for ever, until boats will look like boats.
 
WorstCase said:
yes actually I was thinking at a folding solution like this:
http://www.opacmare.com/pages/transformer_serie_3384XL_it/302
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If you can make that work its better than the fold down platform that SL currently fit on the 62 which looks like this

sanlorenzo-sl-62-4-nv-225736614.jpg
 
WorstCase said:
oh no, that's horrible
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Yeah when I said it was 'rather odd' I was being kind. I'm not sure what the SL designers were smoking when they came up with that and when it's folded up, the stern of the boat looks very strange. The earlier SL62s look much better with their fixed platforms. Actually apart from the silly folding platform the SWMBO and I were rather taken with the SL62 and had one been available in the same price range as the Ferretti 630 we ended up buying, we would have given it serious consideration. As PYB says, the SL62, like all SLs, has a classic shippy feel which we liked and the SL62 is a big boat inside for a 62 footer
 
I would alway's fit a normal hilo platform, anything folding or whatever system,

I know that a big platform looks slightly odd from some vieuw angles, also on our C70 or a SQ78
but if well designed, the obstrusion to the eye is very minimal,
and the advantages are so huge; you have so much more use of this part of the boat;
for swiming, for recovering the tender, easy rope handling during mooring, space for working when you are doing refits on the boat etc etc etc, but just keep the shape simple and standard (all imho)
 
BartW said:
I would alway's fit a normal hilo platform, anything folding or whatever system,

I know that a big platform looks slightly odd from some vieuw angles, also on our C70 or a SQ78
but if well designed, the obstrusion to the eye is very minimal,
and the advantages are so huge; you have so much more use of this part of the boat;
for swiming, for recovering the tender, easy rope handling during mooring, space for working when you are doing refits on the boat etc etc etc, but just keep the shape simple and standard (all imho)
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An extended would look a bit more odd on a 90s Sanlorenzo versus a Canados or a Fairline because of the height. A Sanlorenzo bathing platform has a about two feet - 1ft 1/2 above the water which might make an extension look soso.
Tender stowage on the SLs is up on the fly, and the standard platform was a bit more spacious then normal boats of the time (over 2 feet deep), that is unless you compare with a nineties vintage Ferretti of the same which had over 1 meter deep platforms.
I have seen small jet bikes with cradle stowed on a normal sized bathing platform Sanlorenzo 62.

As for things to check up. A Sanlorenzo will always be very subjective and dependent on how well it is maintained. If an SL is left abandoned in a yard for a couple of years it might be a big expense to get to its former glorious condition.
These are boats which have a lot of cosmetic wood, outside which if left unattended can be a high bill to return in condition.
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
I am not sure I would extend the platform of a SL62,
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and when I suggested to buy a 62 and extend the platform his tongue in cheek reply was that you cannot buy the Mona Lisa and give it to Picasso to edit it.
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there is a 2002 SL72 parked behind me here in the yard on the dry,
now I understand perfectly your advice not to extend the platform !

the only way to do this is a very slim and correctly designed platform, but agree that the boat looks much better without

I spoke with the Italian owner, he has a second boat in Bari Italy,
that is a 30yo 55ft wooden Canados, which he adores more than the SL, :)


PowerYachtBlog said:
She is in looks and also the conservative materials inside still a classic, and in my books looks nicer to most newer boats around. An SL62 will be a boat that will grace any marina for ever, until boats will look like boats.
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I like this quote, and completely agree !
 
BartW said:
I spoke with the Italian owner, he has a second boat in Bari Italy,
that is a 30yo 55ft wooden Canados, which he adores more than the SL, :)
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What doesn't he like about the SL72?
 
Deleted User said:
I'm interested because just maybe I'm thinking about a SL72 for my next boat (in a few years!)
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yes I know you like them, good taste !

this thread reminds me again how classic these boat models are,
models of almost 20yo don't look much different than their latest brand new designs

I know this is a each has his own opinion about that,
but I'm a big fan of what I would call timeless designs
 
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