Gunfleet
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<<But seriously why does the Crown get all this money plus the civil list?>> it's the settlement after the civil war.
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Salcombe
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zefender
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Re: well said
but even I, as a rabid anti-monarchist, wouldn't like to pin the decision to charge £8.50 to anchor on chazza!
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but even I, as a rabid anti-monarchist, wouldn't like to pin the decision to charge £8.50 to anchor on chazza!
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Cornishman
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You might do well to visit the Crown estate home page and revise your opinion that it 'brings nothing to the party'. All profit from the Crown estate is paid directly to the Exchequer for the benefit of the taxpayer which amounted to £163.3 millions in 2001-2002. If you ain't getting your fair share check with wee Gordie who can't even afford to dress properly for the Lord Mayor's Banquet.
You might also care to visit destination-cornwall.co.uk/duchy.htm for a good description of the Duchy of Cornwall and what it actually does.
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You might also care to visit destination-cornwall.co.uk/duchy.htm for a good description of the Duchy of Cornwall and what it actually does.
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Chris_Robb
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Crown Estates
Provides just another form of central taxation - it certainly brings little benefit to the yachting fraternity who make the payments. As for the Duchy - I'll look at the site you suggest.
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Provides just another form of central taxation - it certainly brings little benefit to the yachting fraternity who make the payments. As for the Duchy - I'll look at the site you suggest.
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Twister_Ken
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Crown estate
I still don't see what it brings to the party. It owns the seabed (although Sailing Today suggests that it may be misusing its ownership extortionately) and leases it out. It does nothing to provide moorings, maintain the seabed or foreshore, provide shoreside facilities, etc. Just sits back, sets a price and collects the money and gives what's left once it's paid its own salaries and costs to wee Gordie.
The relationship between its revenues and its revenue surplus (£223m and £163m) shows how little its spends on providing services or maintaining its assets. What it quaintly describes as its 'marine estate' brought revenues of £29m in 2002, but entailed expenditure of just over £2m. Not a bad rate of return!
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I still don't see what it brings to the party. It owns the seabed (although Sailing Today suggests that it may be misusing its ownership extortionately) and leases it out. It does nothing to provide moorings, maintain the seabed or foreshore, provide shoreside facilities, etc. Just sits back, sets a price and collects the money and gives what's left once it's paid its own salaries and costs to wee Gordie.
The relationship between its revenues and its revenue surplus (£223m and £163m) shows how little its spends on providing services or maintaining its assets. What it quaintly describes as its 'marine estate' brought revenues of £29m in 2002, but entailed expenditure of just over £2m. Not a bad rate of return!
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Aja
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Accident?
Maybe the first time. No excuse about the other three.
Donald
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Maybe the first time. No excuse about the other three.
Donald
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summerwind
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Hang on a minute. The Duchy of Cornwall is not the Crown Estate, nor I think I am right in saying, is the Duchy of Lancaster, which is the personal property of the monarch.
Charlie Boy is the Duke of Cornwall and is absolutely entitled to the benefits of the duchy. Now you might think that a person whose only function in life is to sire the next monarch is worth all that loot and life style, but I for one don't. In fact, I would have slotted it to Dianna for nothing.
If Charlie benefitted Salcombe or the Dart in any way, I might not be so rabid on the subject, but he doesn't. He has recently sold a licence to a dredging company to take sand from the silted up Dart. They will create jobs, make a profit, pay taxes AND make the river more navigable. HRH grins like a not-too-stupid idiot and pockets the loot. Now where is the justice in that?
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Charlie Boy is the Duke of Cornwall and is absolutely entitled to the benefits of the duchy. Now you might think that a person whose only function in life is to sire the next monarch is worth all that loot and life style, but I for one don't. In fact, I would have slotted it to Dianna for nothing.
If Charlie benefitted Salcombe or the Dart in any way, I might not be so rabid on the subject, but he doesn't. He has recently sold a licence to a dredging company to take sand from the silted up Dart. They will create jobs, make a profit, pay taxes AND make the river more navigable. HRH grins like a not-too-stupid idiot and pockets the loot. Now where is the justice in that?
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Cornishman
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Who said the Crown estate is the Duchy of Cornwall or even vice-versa? Not me.
I merely pointed out to others who seemed to be under the illusion that the profits of the Crown estate were pocketed by the Royal Family that this was erroneous.
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I merely pointed out to others who seemed to be under the illusion that the profits of the Crown estate were pocketed by the Royal Family that this was erroneous.
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summerwind
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I agree, you don't say that the Duchy of Cornwall is part of the Crown Estate, but the implication is exactly that. Why else would you mention it and try to blame Gordon Brown for the rip off in Salcombe, the Dart and elsewhere?
I suspect that you are a very nice man so I'm really sorry if you find it offensive that I voice my views that HRH and his family take money from the people of this country for no other reason than they can.
However, the reason that they get away with scrounging millions is that very few people know that they do. After all, its the harbour master and marina manager that they see, not the begging bowl next on the throne. The first post in this thread is living proof of that.
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I suspect that you are a very nice man so I'm really sorry if you find it offensive that I voice my views that HRH and his family take money from the people of this country for no other reason than they can.
However, the reason that they get away with scrounging millions is that very few people know that they do. After all, its the harbour master and marina manager that they see, not the begging bowl next on the throne. The first post in this thread is living proof of that.
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