penfold
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Very experienced, or 40 years of the same local conditions? Summer cruising in the Baltic isn't winter in the North Atlantic.
The decision to sail inshore was most likely due to the orca problem remaining unsolved so trying to keep inside the 20m line. They probably had that as their planned route for months and tragically didn’t take enough account of the big swell forecasts and, from the video, local shallower patches.So many times after a fatal accident I don’t comment because it’s easy to be wise after the event. But this? The decision to go is completely incomprehensible. The decision to sail inshore? What on earth were they thinking? Tragic but almost inevitable. I wonder if they had any significant yachting experience at all.
@Sailfree Can you confirm if the red warnings issued on 2 Nov (link) also covered Marina de Peniche? Can you also describe what actions would be taken by the harbor office etc. when red warnings are issued - i.e. would they make contact to visiting guests and make sure everyone is informed, or are there markers put up at the harbor entrance to inform of the red waning?Even small swells become big waves when approaching shores. The Portuguese Maritime Police usually "close" ports for departure in bad conditions. We have been locked in Porto for 4 days after it was closed.
@Sailfree Can you confirm if the red warnings issued on 2 Nov (link) also covered Marina de Peniche? Can you also describe what actions would be taken by the harbor office etc. when red warnings are issued - i.e. would they make contact to visiting guests and make sure everyone is informed, or are there markers put up at the harbor entrance to inform of the red waning?
That report is horrific....they were warned, they weren’t wearing life jackets and possibly they were not in good health....as well as whatever navigation errors they made
The screenshot below is a weather forecast posted by a friend of the skipper. This indicates wind speeds between 14-20 km/h (~7-13 knots), which seems totally off to me but maybe this is from Monday 30 Oct, and the weather just deteriorated a lot over that week (It would be interesting to see if anyone else has access to recordings of weather forecasts).
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Sorry we have been on a 36 day cruise on a P & O big boat and currently in UK and flying back to Portugal on Sunday.@Sailfree Can you confirm if the red warnings issued on 2 Nov (link) also covered Marina de Peniche? Can you also describe what actions would be taken by the harbor office etc. when red warnings are issued - i.e. would they make contact to visiting guests and make sure everyone is informed, or are there markers put up at the harbor entrance to inform of the red waning?