Nicholas123
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& which channels...
the one that bloke was in when he hit a great big orange gas tanker in broad daylight?I think I'll do my own thinking thank you very much.
Sailiing to the West from Portmouth?
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the one that bloke was in when he hit a great big orange gas tanker in broad daylight?I think I'll do my own thinking thank you very much.
Bav34
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I think that the answer is totally wind dependant.
As long as it's not a beat, taking the ebb down The Solent is pretty much a no-brainer whether you're running,reaching or motoring.
However, Googly Earth has just given me the following figures:
Swatchway to Cowes then straightline to just south of Swanage = 35 miles.
Swatchway to Bembridge to St Cats to same point just south of Swanage = 44 miles.
However, if you're on a beat (and a SW wind often bends around in the Eastern Solent which involves tacking to Cowes) you will be putting in a significant number of tacks, avoiding other traffic and following wind shifts.
Fun or hard work?
Going the south side of the island involves a nice starboard fetch to south of BemLedge, little traffic, you're on starboard tack
. and then it's up to you when you flop over onto port to lay south of Swanage.
COULD be done with just one tack.
As long as it's not a beat, taking the ebb down The Solent is pretty much a no-brainer whether you're running,reaching or motoring.
However, Googly Earth has just given me the following figures:
Swatchway to Cowes then straightline to just south of Swanage = 35 miles.
Swatchway to Bembridge to St Cats to same point just south of Swanage = 44 miles.
However, if you're on a beat (and a SW wind often bends around in the Eastern Solent which involves tacking to Cowes) you will be putting in a significant number of tacks, avoiding other traffic and following wind shifts.
Fun or hard work?
Going the south side of the island involves a nice starboard fetch to south of BemLedge, little traffic, you're on starboard tack
. and then it's up to you when you flop over onto port to lay south of Swanage.COULD be done with just one tack.
DJE
Well-Known Member
Correct but the Portsmouth-bound traffic reports on 11 to QHM from the Nab and Warner Bouy, or Prince Consort and North Stourbridge if coming the other way. The Southampton-bound stuff will be on Ch12 but will be going straight on in main channel or North channel. So CH11 is pretty useful if you want to know which traffic is turning off for Portsmouth.
Pleiades
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Round the back of the isle
Two things to add for rounding the Isle clockwise, firstly beware the pots liberally scattered from Bembridge to St Catherines and which are partly submerged when the tide is running hard - so sail rather than motor sail, and also worth mentioning that the ferries go between the Ledge buoy and Princessa, rather than as one might assume outside to the east of the Princessa. When they steam up the side of the isle it can be quite disconcerting to see them going that close in to Whitecliff but thats were the deep water lies. They pass just about where Pleiades is below - and you definitely don't want to get into an argument with Pride of Bilbao there.
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5
Two things to add for rounding the Isle clockwise, firstly beware the pots liberally scattered from Bembridge to St Catherines and which are partly submerged when the tide is running hard - so sail rather than motor sail, and also worth mentioning that the ferries go between the Ledge buoy and Princessa, rather than as one might assume outside to the east of the Princessa. When they steam up the side of the isle it can be quite disconcerting to see them going that close in to Whitecliff but thats were the deep water lies. They pass just about where Pleiades is below - and you definitely don't want to get into an argument with Pride of Bilbao there.
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5
VicS
Well-Known Member
It is difficult to understand why anyone would assume that ferries would pass to the east of the West Princessa buoy. It is a west cardinal buoy!
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Pleiades
Well-Known Member
Inside out buoys
Hi Vic - no doubt buoys will be buoys but didn't stop one of her Majesty's submarines getting them inside out and pilling up on the Ledge!
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5
Hi Vic - no doubt buoys will be buoys but didn't stop one of her Majesty's submarines getting them inside out and pilling up on the Ledge!
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5
Bav34
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A friend of mine mistook Princessa for Bembridge and sailed straight into the rocks.
Luckily there is a channel there ... the run ??? ... and he managed to stand on a rock holding his boat off.
The coastguard sent a vehicle down there and lined their lights up to show him the way back out.
Luckily there is a channel there ... the run ??? ... and he managed to stand on a rock holding his boat off.
The coastguard sent a vehicle down there and lined their lights up to show him the way back out.
VicS
Well-Known Member
I can remember when W. Princessa was an unlit starboard hand buoy. You had to be careful at night in those days!
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onesea
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OK I am bad at not listening to the VHF, but here is a though which ship is going where 90% of time:
Ferry, Navy - Portsmouth
Container Ship, Tanker, Cruise liner - Southampton.
Smaller Coasters any of above or Cowes.
Have I over simplified things?
Fantasie 19
Well-Known Member
Through the solent every time,
More sheltered, also opportunity to stop of at various locations if swmbo forgets a vital face/nail/hair/(etc) cream...
+1 (even if SWMBO is not on board
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Bav34
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I think you're spot on. The only traffic that occasionally confuses is large fuel tankers and small dredgers destined for Portsmouth. The rest of the time my initial assessment is the same as yours.
Fantasie 19
Well-Known Member
Nah - but the guidance is that you should do.... we are of course (thank God) free to make our own decisions...
"Rule 5
Lookout
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and or the risk of collision."
Pleiades
Well-Known Member
Round the back of the isle
in addition to Onesea's summary, may also encounter coasters running in or out of Langstone, the dredger doing it's thing and a fair number of ships not making port but coming to anchor off Bembridge.
Robin
Pleiadeds of Birdham
MXWQ5
in addition to Onesea's summary, may also encounter coasters running in or out of Langstone, the dredger doing it's thing and a fair number of ships not making port but coming to anchor off Bembridge.
Robin
Pleiadeds of Birdham
MXWQ5
rib
Well-Known Member
blue vessel on my starboard side did you hear that may day about a man over board in our area,which way do you wqant to search...........blue vessel on my starboard side did you hear...............etc etc
Seajet
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Any remotely correct / professional message will include vessel name & position, a distance & bearing from a popular landmark is often easier to plot than lat/long.
It would be a shame to blithely trundle past a boat or ship which was frantically searching for a bod overboard or having some problem and coming one's way
It would be a shame to blithely trundle past a boat or ship which was frantically searching for a bod overboard or having some problem and coming one's way
temptress
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THrough the Solent
In the eastern Solent the tide turns west 2 hours before HW Portsmouth. Assuming you are a sailing boat you can leave then and have fair tide nearly all the way to Portland Bill
Back of the island has less traffic and is a prettier but longer passage
In the eastern Solent the tide turns west 2 hours before HW Portsmouth. Assuming you are a sailing boat you can leave then and have fair tide nearly all the way to Portland Bill
Back of the island has less traffic and is a prettier but longer passage
jimi
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In the eastern Solent the tide turns west 2 hours before HW Portsmouth. Assuming you are a sailing boat you can leave then and have fair tide nearly all the way to Portland Bill
Back of the island has less traffic and is a prettier but longer passage
Jings that'd be a fast sailing boat partic with the prevailing wind in a westerly direction! My strategy use to be to get to Studland on a single tide and anchor there to wait for the tide past Anvil Point and St Aldelms, then the next tide would take me past Portland into Lyme Bay
