safety at sea

emandvee44

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Hi fellow forum members,

I have just read the mob thread and I am sure that like many others the thought of such a situation is terrifying, particularly if you are sailing short handed and even worse if the person left on board is not strong!

The subject of safety at sea is one of great importance to me, probably because I have spent most of my life working at sea all over the world and also sailing from a very young age. I have the greatest respect for the sea because I know only too well what it can do (and nearly did do).

We are currently re-fitting our recently purchased yacht and I have paid particular attention to the safety equipment. For me it is insurance and the “feelgood factor” – I hope I never need any of it, but if I do then I want it to work, and work well! Unfortunately, you do tend to get what you pay for, so we have had to spend quite a lot of money to either replace or service the equipment and to end up with a “comfort factor” feeling.

Here is a list of what we have done (so far)

Fire extinguishers replaced with new (6 x ABC 2Kg. 1 x 2Kg Gas auto to E/space)
Liferaft – (6 man) serviced
Lifejackets –(8 off) all serviced (plus bought 2 x 275N auto new ones for H & H)*
EPIRB serviced – new battery
Dan buoy replaced with new, (Jimmy Green Ocean)
Lifebuoys replaced with new, plus new lights (name & SSR no. fitted)
Jackstays replaced with new
Gas installation replaced pipework (CORGI installer)
Rope cutter fitted to saildrive
Flares are in date

* All inflatable lifejackets should have thigh or crotch straps. I have tested lifejackets on many occasions and if you don’t have a crotch strap you will have the lifejacket up around your ears – useless!

I have been reviewing my collection of PBOs and YMs (going back about 2 years), and I noticed that in the vast majority of pictures of yachts sailing, either on test or being sailed by owners, there are no lifebuoys visible and often no danbuoys (see PBO March 09 – Moody article).
Also, the personnel on board are usually not wearing lifejackets!
In a MOB situation the lifebuoy is the most important item of first intervention. Just imagine you have fallen overboard and a few seconds later you see the crew throwing a lifebuoy towards you – gives you hope. In the dark even more important if you can see a light (other than the sternlight disappearing fast).

It is not much use if you have a fancy plotter and all the other electronic gizmos, luminous ropes, a barbecue on the pushpit, and dry toilet rolls, but lack the basic safety items, which generally come at a fraction of the cost !

Human life is precious – put safety first !
 
You could also have one of the personal MOB gadgets that you wear at all times and raises an alarm on board if someone falls overboard. I believe Mcmurdo and others do them
 
Of all the safety gear on board on any boat most of it if any ever gets used. If you really want to cover safety you have to look at the main cases of accidents onboard.
Top of my list would be boom or main sheet strikes, falling down companionways, the opening of the oven door resulting in hot food spilt onto the crew member. Adequate handholds/restraints/galley strap etc for rough seas. Wear on winches.
I'm sure others could add loads to this list but I doubt that all the safety gear really makes that much difference to the actual accidents that occur.
I'm sure this thread is about to become much longer than you originally intended.
 
nke do a wireless remote control for the autopilot, which doubles as a MOB system. It has two settings - solo (it will turn the boat head to wind if it loses contact with the remote) and crewed (it sets off an alarm and shows direction and distance to the point where it lost the signal). You can also get up to 8 additional sets for crew.

A lot of singlehanded sailors wear them on cords around their necks.
 
Good point. Most "safety" equipment is designed to deal with emergencies, rather than prevent them.

In that vein, radar, AIS and active radar transponders are also valuable safety equipment. These all help prevent collisions, but the safety on board should not be forgotten.
 
Could not agree more on trying to understand the causes of "accidents" - and the circumstances surrounding them so that they can be avoided. That way, most of the "safety" equipment becomes unnecessary. It does not take much reading of the accident and rescue reports to find out that the main causes of death and injury are falling overboard (or being knocked) particularly from dinghies/tenders and injuries from equipment, particularly booms and other bits of rigging. Most of these are avoidable. Life jackets are an effective way of prolonging life if you do go in the water - just hope it is possible to get out of the water - good enough reason to try and avoid if possible!

However, all sorts of other incidents could place a boat and its crew in danger, so a means of attracting attention or calling for help is useful.

Prevention is definitely better than cure, and time and effort spent on learning how to sail safely is well worth it.
 
You might like to distinguish between 'safety' equipment and 'emergency' equipment. You will use the former all the time, with the intention of preventing the latter from ever being used. Thus a harness is safety; a lifejacket is emergency. And so on: it's a useful way of coming to decisions about individual items.
 
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You might like to distinguish between 'safety' equipment and 'emergency' equipment. You will use the former all the time, with the intention of preventing the latter from ever being used. Thus a harness is safety; a lifejacket is emergency. And so on: it's a useful way of coming to decisions about individual items.

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That's how I feel about it but you have expressed it better than I could have done.

I will clip-on or wear a lifejacket when other, braver, people wouldn't because I think that there's a fairly high risk of falling in, but I don't carry a liferaft or an EPIRB because I think there's only a very small risk of me ever needing them.
 
Just by way of being a bit of an awkward old cuss, I thought I would ask you this...........

How much of all that stuff that has so far been mentioned, did RKJ, Francis Chichester, and Alec Rose have on board when they went around the world solo?

Something to reflect on isn't it?
 
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How much of all that stuff that has so far been mentioned, did RKJ, Francis Chichester, and Alec Rose have on board when they went around the world solo?

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I think you will find that RKJ in his latest round the world endeavour had all of that kit plus some more fancy sat comms.

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Yes he did, and he cussed it to hell and back because half of it didn't work!

I was as you know aluding to RKJ's first circumnavigation.
 
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... but I don't carry a liferaft or an EPIRB because I think there's only a very small risk of me ever needing them.

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Happy you, you still can decide by yourself.
Here in Spain, thanks to our nanny state, we just have to have and maintain all this useless parphernalia.
A traditional "social regatta" - that's more of a rally than a proper regatta - from Palma to Formentera will probably no longer take place, because the new regulation would impose 4 (yessss sir, four) "assistance boats" to supervise the participants!
... In spite of every boat having the full "safety kit" including life raft, EPIRB, flares, etc.

Hysteria any one?
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Paul
 
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nke do a wireless remote control for the autopilot,

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Do you have any details or a web site URL ?

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The nke website (direct link to the remote control section) is here.

Specific product is here.

Their website indicates no distributor in South Africa. I trolled the net trying to find prices and eventually I found an online price in a chandlery in France - remote control alone €773 (but I don't know if it will interface with other equipment) and complete pilot packages from €5 539 here.
 
I didn't say it was cheap, I just said it was available ... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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