jimmie
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Jerry, is it true yo're Oirish? Why do'nt you buy a decent pair of binoculars instead? Then you can see the little pots bobbing about and you wo'nt bash into them?
Jem
Jem
Rope Cutters
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phanakapan
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does anyone know how far away from the black flag thingy the rope trails on lobster pots- I was helming when 'incident' happened, and I'm sure I was a good 15 feet away. from a pot- but they are tricky little buggers to see especially in the dark/dusk.
gunnarsilins
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Re: What about closing......
Yes, that´s what I thought. A long keel with an aperture is no guarantee for not having things entangled in the prop.
This is a annoying problem - in Baltic waters it´s very rare get something in the prop. I only had it once in 40 years of sailing, and that was a rope I left hanging into water all by myself.....And then I read all horror stories from British waters...
But a wire between between keel and rudder must at least be of some help!?
We will go four our cruise in May 2004, so there is still plenty of time for deciding on anchors. Hylas arguments are indeed good, but I would like to hear some comments from real users before buying.
So, I´m quite sure the last words are not yet written inthis matter!
Yes, that´s what I thought. A long keel with an aperture is no guarantee for not having things entangled in the prop.
This is a annoying problem - in Baltic waters it´s very rare get something in the prop. I only had it once in 40 years of sailing, and that was a rope I left hanging into water all by myself.....And then I read all horror stories from British waters...
But a wire between between keel and rudder must at least be of some help!?
We will go four our cruise in May 2004, so there is still plenty of time for deciding on anchors. Hylas arguments are indeed good, but I would like to hear some comments from real users before buying.
So, I´m quite sure the last words are not yet written inthis matter!
PeterGibbs
New member
Re: Rope Cutters - comparison
I have used a set of Spurs for 8 years on a standard Westerly 3 bladed prop and saved my neck on several occasions. Only one clearance, especially in bad weather or difficult circumstances pays off the investment handsomely. Replies to this question show this.
I now have an S drive on my Bavaria and fitted the Ambassador gear from day 1, and again it has saved me a plunge or an expensive diver.
Do note: if you get caught on a pot you will stop dead - a pot is not a lightweight item. You will not just plunge over the side, even on a mild day, and do a slashing job with the boat about to brain you on every passing wave. You will look over the side and consider the possible consequences, and they are not pretty.
Get one - it will be an investment that pays off, especially around our southern coasts - arguably the most rubbish strewn waters in Europe if not the world.
Finally, the drag argument is simply not true - properly sited the cutters are negligable in their effect, and this has been shown many times.
Peter Gibbs
I have used a set of Spurs for 8 years on a standard Westerly 3 bladed prop and saved my neck on several occasions. Only one clearance, especially in bad weather or difficult circumstances pays off the investment handsomely. Replies to this question show this.
I now have an S drive on my Bavaria and fitted the Ambassador gear from day 1, and again it has saved me a plunge or an expensive diver.
Do note: if you get caught on a pot you will stop dead - a pot is not a lightweight item. You will not just plunge over the side, even on a mild day, and do a slashing job with the boat about to brain you on every passing wave. You will look over the side and consider the possible consequences, and they are not pretty.
Get one - it will be an investment that pays off, especially around our southern coasts - arguably the most rubbish strewn waters in Europe if not the world.
Finally, the drag argument is simply not true - properly sited the cutters are negligable in their effect, and this has been shown many times.
Peter Gibbs
nicho
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Re: Rope Cutters - comparison
I went to see the new boat today at Sparkes on Hayling Island (where all Bavarias arrive for commissioning). This will upset a lot of people, but there were literally scores of brand new Bavs, all being fitted out for the new year, (and a few Legends as well). They were all on cradles on the hard, and it was interesting to note that only two or three had rope cutters fitted. Perhaps it's the relatively high price of the Ambassador cutter, but obviously many owners do not fit as an extra.
Mine was one of those with it fitted, so I take heart from the comments on this thread that the investment was worthwhile. Interestingly I did so after sound advice from this forum on a previous occasion.
I went to see the new boat today at Sparkes on Hayling Island (where all Bavarias arrive for commissioning). This will upset a lot of people, but there were literally scores of brand new Bavs, all being fitted out for the new year, (and a few Legends as well). They were all on cradles on the hard, and it was interesting to note that only two or three had rope cutters fitted. Perhaps it's the relatively high price of the Ambassador cutter, but obviously many owners do not fit as an extra.
Mine was one of those with it fitted, so I take heart from the comments on this thread that the investment was worthwhile. Interestingly I did so after sound advice from this forum on a previous occasion.
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Iota
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Re: Rope Cutters - comparison
but where are they going to park them all? may be send them to the east coast and north wales very nice in those parts. that way they can avoid a gentle kiss from a nice old long keeler that makes them fall to bits or perhaps we should have fenders on the bowsprits ;>)
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
but where are they going to park them all? may be send them to the east coast and north wales very nice in those parts. that way they can avoid a gentle kiss from a nice old long keeler that makes them fall to bits or perhaps we should have fenders on the bowsprits ;>)
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
nicho
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Re: Rope Cutters - comparison
Oh dear! What a sad git you are, anchored so firmly in the past.....You stay with your old boat, and you will receive no criticism from me for doing so - may you have many years of hard toil varnishing your bowsprit - some kind of phallic symbal to you is it??
(As it happens, I understand they are headed for all parts of the country, including Wales and Scotland.)
Cheers
Mike N
Oh dear! What a sad git you are, anchored so firmly in the past.....You stay with your old boat, and you will receive no criticism from me for doing so - may you have many years of hard toil varnishing your bowsprit - some kind of phallic symbal to you is it??
(As it happens, I understand they are headed for all parts of the country, including Wales and Scotland.)
Cheers
Mike N
Chris_Robb
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Re: Rope Cutters - comparison
bloody hell Nico - thats a bit sharp!
bloody hell Nico - thats a bit sharp!
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Iota
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Re: Rope Cutters - comparison
the man has no sense of humour and cannot spot a wind up, perhaps he has spent to long in power boats and the slip stream has compressed his brains
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
the man has no sense of humour and cannot spot a wind up, perhaps he has spent to long in power boats and the slip stream has compressed his brains
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
Chris_Robb
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Seconds out!
Well - time to call the seconds out - whats it to be - Bowsprits and 30 yds!
They don't like it up 'em
Well - time to call the seconds out - whats it to be - Bowsprits and 30 yds!
They don't like it up 'em
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Iota
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Re: Seconds out!
what's a bowsprit? how about a race to Wolf rock?
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
what's a bowsprit? how about a race to Wolf rock?
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
Chris_Robb
Well-known member
a bowsprit is...
a thing you wind up the opo with.......
perhaps Rope cutters at dawn..... but no not the wolfe rock, thats too much.
a thing you wind up the opo with.......
perhaps Rope cutters at dawn..... but no not the wolfe rock, thats too much.
jimmie
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Re: Seconds out!
I'll be you're second if you want ... I like to back a good man up!
I'll be you're second if you want ... I like to back a good man up!
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Iota
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Re: a bowsprit is...
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Iota
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Re: Seconds out!
Very kind m'dear but I am urrmph sure that Nicho could do with all the help he can get especially from 'a former conscript in Red Army where you drove tanks. and ran away as it got too cold and you started to explore your feminine side. You Used to be a man, am now a woman' keep taking the pills.
Now for my second I will ask Ellen.
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
Very kind m'dear but I am urrmph sure that Nicho could do with all the help he can get especially from 'a former conscript in Red Army where you drove tanks. and ran away as it got too cold and you started to explore your feminine side. You Used to be a man, am now a woman' keep taking the pills.
Now for my second I will ask Ellen.
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
Chris_Robb
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Re: Seconds out!
I am really confused now.....
I am really confused now.....
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Iota
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Re: Seconds out!
bloody hell you don't drive a Bavaria do you? Jimmie offered to be my second, I declined suggesting that Nicho could do with all the help he could get. Might have been a bad move on my part as a wo(man) scorned and all that. this is teribble you the script writer losing the plot...
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
bloody hell you don't drive a Bavaria do you? Jimmie offered to be my second, I declined suggesting that Nicho could do with all the help he could get. Might have been a bad move on my part as a wo(man) scorned and all that. this is teribble you the script writer losing the plot...
Courtesy is an iota but makes the world go round
jimmie
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Re: Seconds out!
I used to be as well. Then I had the op and then everything became beautifully lucid. Turn into a woman, Chris, I really recommend it!
I used to be as well. Then I had the op and then everything became beautifully lucid. Turn into a woman, Chris, I really recommend it!
Chris_Robb
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Re: Seconds out!
I'm too bloody old to try any antics like that! Kind a got used to what I got - nod nod wink wink nowhatImean - what would my mummy think?
I'm too bloody old to try any antics like that! Kind a got used to what I got - nod nod wink wink nowhatImean - what would my mummy think?
Chris_Robb
Well-known member
Re: Seconds out!
NOOOOWAAAAY - I have 13 tones of solid bavaria crunching plastic.
NOOOOWAAAAY - I have 13 tones of solid bavaria crunching plastic.