cryan
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Did we really need to spend so much Tax Payers money to prove this?
Would an instant Fine from MCA not have been more sensible?
Would an instant Fine from MCA not have been more sensible?
Roland Wilson Guilty!
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prv
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alant
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Just ask the forum!
Sandyman
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They do for such things as speeding & parking ticket etc...................so why not ?
cryan
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In the same manner as parking tickets for cars.
Zen Zero
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They felt they needed a show-trial to satisfy the readership of certain newspapers.
Tranona
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Simple, those are absolute offences, and you have the alternative to go to court, or in some cases to an independent review if you think the charge is wrong.
sarabande
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any idea how we can read the full judgement ?
And then see if the magistrate thanks the forum for its expert, professional, and unbiased assistance in determining the verdict two years ago .....
SERIOUSLY...
a lot of thinking and re-writing of local racing rules, harbourmaster's regs, and similar control environments needs to be undertaken, to make sure the lessons from this incident reduce the risk of further accidents.
And then see if the magistrate thanks the forum for its expert, professional, and unbiased assistance in determining the verdict two years ago .....
SERIOUSLY...
a lot of thinking and re-writing of local racing rules, harbourmaster's regs, and similar control environments needs to be undertaken, to make sure the lessons from this incident reduce the risk of further accidents.
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Seajet
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There was me thinking this is a sailing forum rather than a fascist court ! 
sailorman
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Its quick to judge but is no match for an A22 
There was me thinking this is a sailing forum rather than a fascist court !
BruceDanforth
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The judge said:
"This was not some Saturday afternoon jaunt by some inadequate vessel crewed by inexperienced, clueless and foolhardy people who frankly have no business being on the water at all."
Why shouldn't 'inexperienced, clueless and foolhardy people' be on the water? Surely they have as much right to be there as anyone else?
"This was not some Saturday afternoon jaunt by some inadequate vessel crewed by inexperienced, clueless and foolhardy people who frankly have no business being on the water at all."
Why shouldn't 'inexperienced, clueless and foolhardy people' be on the water? Surely they have as much right to be there as anyone else?
sailorman
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How many of these stupid sailors have got hung-up on a ships anchor whilst said ship is under way
Talulah
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Not a biased Judge then. Do you think he was a member of the RYS?
prv
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These have been streamlined because the number of them would overwhelm the courts if all had to be formally prosecuted - but you do have the right to refuse the streamlined process and be properly tried in court if you wish.
Since Mr Wilson pleaded not guilty in this case, one assumes he'd have taken that option if marine offences were streamlined the same way.
Pete
PEJ
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He was ordered to pay costs in excess of £100,000.00
[70521]
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Or just one simple line... don't play near the big red ship.
Having read most of the postings on here and what I could in the press I have come to the conclusion that the whole crew, well perhaps not the member of the crew who bailed out before the impact, but I am sure he lives in Poole and swims a lot, had "caught in the headlights" or "red mist" syndrome.
There is a fair amount of research on the behaviour of aircrew in crashes that indicates that there is just too much information to be processed by the brain to take a rational decision at the right time. Perhaps this is what happened in this case - not being a racer it is not a situation that I will ever be in as I keep away from the big stuff.
sailorman
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[FONT=Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif]Mr Wilson was ordered to pay a fine of £3,000, and costs of more than £100,000.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif]Who said yachting was like standing under shower tearing up £20 notes[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif]Who said yachting was like standing under shower tearing up £20 notes[/FONT]
npf1
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Wow. That’s got to be sobering for every boater … the consequences of a dumb/reckless decision or mistake can cost, in addition to a refused insurance claim and injuries/lives, a six figure sum. Bankruptcy is amongst the risks we take every time we go out!
And in this case, it's probably cost him his naval career & a gold plated pension too.
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Talulah
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I would fully expect the costs to be dramatically reduced on appeal. There is a criteria that costs must not be disproportionate to the offence.
I wonder what his own legal bill is?
Allan
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[QUOTE/]The Armed Forces Legal Aid Authority funded Wilson's defence.[/QUOTE]
Read more at http://www.pbo.co.uk/news/535496/breaking-news-roland-wilson-found-guilty#FLzLcfBEzSdmAqYW.99
I believe that means we all contributed.
Allan
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