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[MapisM]

if you had someone totally new to boating, which would they find easier to berth?

I don't think anyone ever denied that pods+joystick make life easier to newcomers.
It's rather the opposite, in a sense - i.e. some of us think that this argument, which is unquestionably true, is actually abused (sort of) in comparison of the value of getting experienced in non-joystick operation.
Which is just a matter of practice, at the end of the day.

Ref. the sterndrives lover who fears that we (the anti-IPS gang ) would shoot him down in flames, two small comments, if I may:
1) we can still distinguish between IPS and sterndrives
2) being shot down in flame in a forum is part of the fun - name me someone who has never been, if you can...

PS: if you will eventually go for an IPS boat, being fully aware of all its pros and cons, who is anyone else to argue? Just don't forget to post some pics! :encouragement:
My only suggestion would be to take a bit of time to practice also with joystick operation, which takes a bit of sensibility to avoid the nasty side effect I mentioned in post #13.

 

[MapisM]

It is important to get to the route of the problem

You mean to the root, dontcha?
Sorry P, couldn't resist...

 

[derekbland]

I don't think anyone ever denied that pods+joystick make life easier to newcomers.
It's rather the opposite, in a sense - i.e. some of us think that this argument, which is unquestionably true, is actually abused (sort of) in comparison of the value of getting experienced in non-joystick operation.
Which is just a matter of practice, at the end of the day.

Ref. the sterndrives lover who fears that we (the anti-IPS gang ) would shoot him down in flames, two small comments, if I may:
1) we can still distinguish between IPS and sterndrives
2) being shot down in flame in a forum is part of the fun - name me someone who has never been, if you can...

PS: if you will eventually go for an IPS boat, being fully aware of all its pros and cons, who is anyone else to argue? Just don't forget to post some pics! :encouragement:
My only suggestion would be to take a bit of time to practice also with joystick operation, which takes a bit of sensibility to avoid the nasty side effect I mentioned in post #13.

I understand that I do not have all the lingo off pat but is an IPS boat not using sterndrives or are they called pods? Come to think of it, my old Regal had a sterndrive so think I have worked that one out. Thank you for picking me up on it, I am on here to learn but some serious filtering is needed. I should have used IPS throughout.

From all of the boats I have looked at, ones fitted with IPS are at LEAST 20% cheaper than a shaft drive and on a boat of, say, £150k that's £30k. Even with the increased maintenance that's a fair few years worth. What I do find amusing is the, "you're not a real man if you don't use shaft drive" type argument. Again, I may well not buy one but you need to do some serious sifting.

Is there anyone on here who likes them and is brave enough to say so?

Ooh! and just having a go at use the emogis.

 

[petem]

You mean to the root, dontcha?
Sorry P, couldn't resist...

Indeed, well spotted!

 

[MapisM]

I understand that I do not have all the lingo off pat but...

Sorry if I came across as pedantic, as my other reply to Petem deliberately was, actually - but we have a background of reciprocal spell checking...

Ref. IPS/pods, just for sake of accuracy, "Pod" is the generic type or propulsion, with a steerable leg (sort of) protruding from the hull bottom (similar to those often used in sailboats, but bigger), while "IPS" is the Volvo Penta incarnation of the pod system. I used the terms as synonyms, in this context.

 

[derekbland]

Sorry if I came across as pedantic, as my other reply to Petem deliberately was, actually - but we have a background of reciprocal spell checking...

Ref. IPS/pods, just for sake of accuracy, "Pod" is the generic type or propulsion, with a steerable leg (sort of) protruding from the hull bottom (similar to those often used in sailboats, but bigger), while "IPS" is the Volvo Penta incarnation of the pod system. I used the terms as synonyms, in this context.

Note a problem and I kinda new sum of that but stupidly got sturn drives momentarily mixed up. Eye appreciate you're taking the effort to clarify.

There yew go that should keep yew busy for a minute or too

 

[kashurst]

"From all of the boats I have looked at, ones fitted with IPS are at LEAST 20% cheaper than a shaft drive "
that's interesting, could you post a few links to the ips boats

 

[MapisM]

I'm surprised of your surprise.
For any given size/model, with IPS the engines are significantly smaller and build times/costs are much lower.
They'd better be cheaper!

 

[derekbland]

"From all of the boats I have looked at, ones fitted with IPS are at LEAST 20% cheaper than a shaft drive "
that's interesting, could you post a few links to the ips boats

CBA. Have a look on Yachtworld or similar. Check out 3 cabin version of the sort I am looking for. There is one at around 165k Euros 2006 0r 8 if I remember. This is the one that I am told had engine flooded although has apparently all been sorted. It may well be that they are cheaper because there is a problem. And, as the consensus on here is that they suffer more problems, higher maintenance costs etc. then how could they possibly hold their price compared to a shaft driven boat.

Happy for you to find me a boat though, at absolute max budget of £150k preferably not before 2000, capable of cruising at around 18-20kts. Ideally it will have Med spec but can forego that.