DanTribe
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Anchored in Abraham's Bosum tonight. So peaceful, I do like a nice bosum!
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Malish
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the question is who was Abraham and why did he have a Bosum
AntarcticPilot
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I'd be a bit concerned, if I were you. Abraham's bosom is the afterlife for good Jews!
LONG_KEELER
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Agreed.
You lucky chap being out in this fabulous weather.
The forecast is Scorchio from now until whenever so the rest us will be joining you soon.
Seashoreman
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If you move around to north of the island you will be at Cuckolds Point. Some rare goings-on in the olden days?
Or in fact you could join the local Marmalade Club if you get stuck on the mud (marmalade) overnight with someone else's wife.
They have an Annual Ball in Thorpeness in the summer.
Or in fact you could join the local Marmalade Club if you get stuck on the mud (marmalade) overnight with someone else's wife.
They have an Annual Ball in Thorpeness in the summer.
DanTribe
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I see that there is also a Lower Dan's Hole.
I shall keep my wits about me!
Denek
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Hope to be there next week. How was the entrance?
DanTribe
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Fairly straightforward with the help of East Coast Pilot chartlet. More water than the Deben I think.
Denek
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Looks like this week is off. Thunderstorms forecast and although getting there will probably be ok on Wednesday I don’t fancy sitting at anchor listening to the rain. Will try for the following week I think.
johnalison
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Sitting at anchor listening to the rain is one of life’s pleasures. A little rum helps too.
Bru
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Christians too
It's from the Old Testament (common to both Judaism and Christianity*) and its a sort of halfway house between earth and heaven where the righteous dead await judgement day
There's several places around the shores of the UK of the same name, usually nice sheltered anchorages
*and in parts to Islam but The Bosom of Abraham doesn't feature in Islam
AntarcticPilot
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True, but Christians don't usually refer to it that way. I'm a Licensed Lay Minister...
Bru
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That's interesting ...
Given the use of the name for sheltered anchorages at several disparate locations, is it a reference that has gone out of fashion in (perhaps relatively) modern times? Or something that was in vogue, for want of a better way of putting it, within one or more denominations?
(Genuine query - I'm an amateur social historian and religion is of course a key element of social history)
Bru
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a wee bit of further research and I've answered my own question ...
It seems there was something of a cult around the concept of The Bosom of Abraham in medieval times particularly in France and pre-reformation England with a great deal of religious art and iconography featuring either Abraham or God cradling the souls of the dead to his bosom
This iconography was probably widespread in churches until the Puritans destroyed most of it
It seems there was something of a cult around the concept of The Bosom of Abraham in medieval times particularly in France and pre-reformation England with a great deal of religious art and iconography featuring either Abraham or God cradling the souls of the dead to his bosom
This iconography was probably widespread in churches until the Puritans destroyed most of it
AntarcticPilot
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I think it probably went out of fashion with the Reformation, as the whole point of the Reformation was that there is only one intermediary between God and mankind, and that's Jesus. So, references to "Abraham's bosom" would be alongside veneration of and intercessions to saints, and considered to be denying the status of Christ.
I'm afraid that we must also consider anti-semitic tendencies, but they're something that has been up and down since at least the Norman Conquest.
It is still understood, and of course, is a perfectly scriptural concept, but it's not something you'd expect to hear about even on a year to year basis.
