steveroofer
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I have just asked a professional rigger to re rig my sadler, has anybody got any advice as to what i should ask him to do or not to do to get the best out of him?
Rigging a Sadler 32
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sailorman
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[to get the best out of him]
i think you might be lucky to have him with that attitude /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
i think you might be lucky to have him with that attitude /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
steveroofer
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Some people have negative attitudes and some positive, myself I have a positive attitude.
How come you think my last post was negative! I only seek information.
How come you think my last post was negative! I only seek information.
sailorman
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you employed him to do a job that presumably hes the expert in.
if you need to "whip" him onto shape you chose badly imho.
i would only give the job to somebody i knew & trusted
if you need to "whip" him onto shape you chose badly imho.
i would only give the job to somebody i knew & trusted
steveroofer
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You must know and trust a lot of people to be able to make that sort of claim
Tranona
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Don't think there is anything "peculiar" about a Sadler 32 rig. Straight forward mast head rig.
When I had my boat re-rigged by a professional rigger I went over the whole thing with him discussing what he wanted to replace and why, and what choices I had if any. If you are employing a professional this is what you should expect and follow his advice. This will, of course cost more than figuring it out yourself, but DIY assumes you are confident in your own ability.
If possible it might be wise to get two quotes.
When I had my boat re-rigged by a professional rigger I went over the whole thing with him discussing what he wanted to replace and why, and what choices I had if any. If you are employing a professional this is what you should expect and follow his advice. This will, of course cost more than figuring it out yourself, but DIY assumes you are confident in your own ability.
If possible it might be wise to get two quotes.
steveroofer
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Thanks for this he seems to be offering a lot of sound advice, I was going to go along and talk to him over the weekend just to talk though the finer points, one of the reasons I have decided to have the work carried out is because the previous owner had a in mast reeking kit added to the mast and I wont to get shot of this so the mast has to come down, I know I need a now boom and more than probable I’m going to need a new main. On line I found the cost of the parts to be in line with what he wants to charge and the labour charge he has quoted is 5h X £40, personally I thought this to be quite low.
john_morris_uk
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Hello Steveroofer,
I think you are asking a perfectly reasonable question.
The advice that you have had regarding discussing things with him and expecting professional advice is sound.
Some of the points I would be discussing are:
1. Bottlescrews - renew or leave? If you are going to renew, then what is he suggesting? I would prefer the answer to be bronze bodied, s/s threads.
2. How is he going to rig the reefing system? (I assume that you are reinstating a slab reefed main? What about single line reefing. Can I use this opportunity to run all lines back to the cockpit? Costs?
3. What size wire? (The designer should have chosen the correct size) and there is usually NO ADVANTAGE in going up a size - in fact it often adds to the stress on the boat with more weight aloft.
4. Is the rigger going to set the mast up for you? Will he come back and help tune it once its initial stretch is over?
All the best with the re-rig.
Three quotes are always a good idea.
I think you are asking a perfectly reasonable question.
The advice that you have had regarding discussing things with him and expecting professional advice is sound.
Some of the points I would be discussing are:
1. Bottlescrews - renew or leave? If you are going to renew, then what is he suggesting? I would prefer the answer to be bronze bodied, s/s threads.
2. How is he going to rig the reefing system? (I assume that you are reinstating a slab reefed main? What about single line reefing. Can I use this opportunity to run all lines back to the cockpit? Costs?
3. What size wire? (The designer should have chosen the correct size) and there is usually NO ADVANTAGE in going up a size - in fact it often adds to the stress on the boat with more weight aloft.
4. Is the rigger going to set the mast up for you? Will he come back and help tune it once its initial stretch is over?
All the best with the re-rig.
Three quotes are always a good idea.
Tranona
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Difficult to comment on whether labour quote is reasonable - rate is about right - without knowing what that covers. If it is just taking down the mast, removing the reefing gear, making good and re-stepping and fitting new boom sounds about right. However, would not get all the stays replaced within that sort of time. While it is down it is a good idea to get the whole rig checked including mast head sheaves, internal wiring etc. Could end up a big bill!
Finbar
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I sail a Sadler 32 , and had a rigger make up new standng rigging. Very straightforward, no problems. I put the mast back up myself, and the rigger gave me about 30mins help to tune. Check out http://www.mikelucasyachting.co.uk/frameset.htm
where you will find lots of Sadler 32 info including rigging specs and advice and a useful Sadler forum.. You need about 1 ft of mast rake set up. I have a stackpack and lazy jacks for the mainsail which are very handy. I also have rigged double line reefing, with all lines taken back to the cockpit which works very well. Single handed I can reef the main quickly and safely, which is what I want. Mike Lucas can sell you deck organisers which will piggyback on the existing ones, very convenient, and also a gooseneck pin with spectacle rings for reefing lines. You can mount clutches on the cokpit roof, which contains a hidden aluminum plate which can be tapped to take M6 bolts for mounting. Find it with one of those sensors for locating cables in walls. Replace wire rope halyards with 10m Dyneema and check masthead sheaves are ok for this size. Have a good look at your VHF antenna while the mast is down and might be worth replacing bulbs to save mast clmbing later.
best of luck with the work
where you will find lots of Sadler 32 info including rigging specs and advice and a useful Sadler forum.. You need about 1 ft of mast rake set up. I have a stackpack and lazy jacks for the mainsail which are very handy. I also have rigged double line reefing, with all lines taken back to the cockpit which works very well. Single handed I can reef the main quickly and safely, which is what I want. Mike Lucas can sell you deck organisers which will piggyback on the existing ones, very convenient, and also a gooseneck pin with spectacle rings for reefing lines. You can mount clutches on the cokpit roof, which contains a hidden aluminum plate which can be tapped to take M6 bolts for mounting. Find it with one of those sensors for locating cables in walls. Replace wire rope halyards with 10m Dyneema and check masthead sheaves are ok for this size. Have a good look at your VHF antenna while the mast is down and might be worth replacing bulbs to save mast clmbing later.
best of luck with the work
