Dodgy Diver
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I have a spanish passport also , they dine ask for it 3 months ago when renewing my uk one
Requirement to send foreign passport when applying for new UK passport
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roblpm
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Hmmmm. I wonder how. I am still convinced that basically the immigration in both the UK and USA have no idea I am a dual citizen. And I wonder if it is the law on either side that I tell them. Any lawyers want to find the law?!
westernman
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Is there not a box on the passport application form which asks if you are a citizen of another country?
And did you not sign saying you had told the truth and the whole truth in your application?
Zing
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An interesting question. It looks to me like a case of government overreach. I can’t see what legal reason they would legitimately have to know this.
roblpm
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Dunno. Was ages ago. I don't think there was a question as I am not in the habit of lying on government forms.
roblpm
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Ok the passport application form says send other uncancelled passports. But it doesn’t say anywhere that you must blah blah blah.....
And then this indicates its optional....
Dual nationality
Tbh the government departments always ask for stuff that is not a legal requirement. The population tend not to realise that the departments have to follow the law. Not what they decide to put on forms.
I was involved a while ago with getting HMRC to remove their guidance that said that Directors of Limited Companies had to submit personal tax returns. This was just made up! Took years and many other people to get them to remove it. The law is the law. Not what beurocracrats make up on their forms.
So to be honest unless someone shows me the law that says I need to declare it. I will ignore that suggestion on the form. I missed the bit that said British or otherwise before. I just scanned it and sent British one back.
And then this indicates its optional....
Dual nationality
Tbh the government departments always ask for stuff that is not a legal requirement. The population tend not to realise that the departments have to follow the law. Not what they decide to put on forms.
I was involved a while ago with getting HMRC to remove their guidance that said that Directors of Limited Companies had to submit personal tax returns. This was just made up! Took years and many other people to get them to remove it. The law is the law. Not what beurocracrats make up on their forms.
So to be honest unless someone shows me the law that says I need to declare it. I will ignore that suggestion on the form. I missed the bit that said British or otherwise before. I just scanned it and sent British one back.
roblpm
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https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2021-05-18/HL327/
So "it is required". I would like to see the legal basis for this!
So "it is required". I would like to see the legal basis for this!
syvictoria
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Wow! What!!!???
"We ask customers to send their original document to allow physical checks ensure it is genuine, and we can return it during the application process if requested."
Err, yes, I would like my other passport back!!! (And by signed for, not ordinary post, thank you!)
Interesting that both pages have dates of 2020 or later! Personally I think that the proverbial is being taken here!
roblpm
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Well. It would be interesting to find out what legal basis they have for "requesting" your other passports. I don't trust government agencies to follow the law.
webcraft
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Just to let you know - the nightmare continues. Five more fruitless hours on the phone this week so far. All we really want to do is pay to have the Irish passport sent back securely, which it seems is technically possible - but it is not possible to speak to the person who can actually sanction this and take the money.
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Laser310
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I don't remember exactly how they sent me my foreign passport.., but there was no problem...
I am not sure whether i got any tracking info - i think i didn't - it just arrived in the USA.., but it was by a big carrier - DHL I am pretty sure
I did get tracking info for the British passport - which came separately, also by DHL I think.
I don't think I would worry about it too much....
Neil
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Yes, they ask for any foreign passport to be sent in. I didn't admit to having a second passport and never bothered sending the Irish one - why should I? I can't see how it's any of their business. Got the UK one OK, but how did they know your partner had dual nationality?
Is this relatively recent requirement part and parcel of the UK's new post-Br**it (can't mention the 'B' word) push for sovereignty, end of FOM and immigration constraints and such like?
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webcraft
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I don't know. They said they had received her documents (ie UK passport) then ten days later we got a demand to send in the most recent foreign passport or travel document. Maybe we should just have ignored that. Maybe it was just a phishing thing.
Too late now, they have it - though they have not acknowledged receiving it. (It was tracked/signed for).
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roblpm
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I think I will continue to ignore that question. It either wasn't there the last time I applied for a UK passport or I didn't read it properly.....
nortada
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RAI
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I wonder if the UK's hostile environment is cross checking passport names. So if Misses Webbie has entered on one passport and the the other, on another trip, those checking such things can find very similar or identical names but of different nationalities.
Graham376
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Historically it hasn't, my wife has used UK passport in one direction and citizen's card in the other. Citizen's cards can no longer be used for travel although she shows it on arrival in EU as no residency under her UK married name and passport.
webcraft
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Utter cockwombles..
They have resolutely refused to contact me about sending the Irish passport back tracked. Now they say it is too late, I should have sent a postal order with the document!
Aye, right.
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They have resolutely refused to contact me about sending the Irish passport back tracked. Now they say it is too late, I should have sent a postal order with the document!
Aye, right.
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ean_p
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Why would they contact you regarding someone else's passport??
webcraft
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Because it was me who was officialy dealing with the application.
Perhaps I could make it clearer, they refused to contact either of us until it was too late and an insecure return was a fait accompli.
Appalling behaviour.
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