Replacing Gas Pipe

[KellysEye]

>I'm asking you to explain your statement that insurance companies insist on one type of hose whereas the boat safety scheme wants another.

No I didn't say insurance companies isisted on one type of hose. What I said was Corgi at the time insisted on braided hose for safety (anti chafe) reasons. Then I said the insurance company wanted a Corgi certificate. The reason they asked for the certificate was that our surveyor had picked up that the boat didn't have braided hose and said it had to be changed to braided.

If people haven't been asked by their insurance company for a safety certicate then my guess would be the boat has a braided hose already. Assuming the boat has been surveyed.

I would trust a qualified gas fitter more than advice from he Boat Safety Scheme.

Somebody mentioned anonymous regulations. They weren't anymous, I was very clear that installing braided hose was, what we would now call, best practice taught to gas installers at that time. I don't know if they are still teaching that, but they would have to have a very good reason not to given the chafe issue with gimballed stoves.

 

[daveyw]

You say "if permitted" - if you're not doing the work for someone else or in a house with tenants, then you are permitted provided you are competent. "Competent" is not further defined in the GSIURs; the usual joke is that if your house blows up you clearly weren't competent . I'm comfortable that I'm competent to do the kind of small jobs described - for example I knew I had to look up the ventilation requirements and horizontal and vertical separations for my cooker.

Pete

Yep, this is true. At present the homeowner can do his own gas work but if the house blew up I imagine the insurance Co would be looking for a cert!(in the debris!)

 

[pappaecho]

Who cares? I paid nearly £600 for a boat survey on a boat bought in September. There was no adverse comment on the gas pipework, even though the orange flexible hose was 10 years old according to its date. Much worse, there was no shutoff valve between the gas cylinder in the gas locker, and the cooker 18 feet away... the only way you could disconnect the circuit was to remove the pressure regulator from the canister.
The cooker had no flame failure devices, and brushing past it could partially turn on the gas supply. I have replaced the cooker and on removing the cooker we found a 6 mm armoured flexible behind the cooker, which clearly was fitted when the boat was built in 1979.My ex Corgi mate reckoned that 6 mm pipe was discontinued in 1982.
Begs the question as to why insurance companies rely on surveys? Gas regulations? What regulations!

 

[Tranona]

>I'm asking you to explain your statement that insurance companies insist on one type of hose whereas the boat safety scheme wants another.

No I didn't say insurance companies isisted on one type of hose. What I said was Corgi at the time insisted on braided hose for safety (anti chafe) reasons. Then I said the insurance company wanted a Corgi certificate. The reason they asked for the certificate was that our surveyor had picked up that the boat didn't have braided hose and said it had to be changed to braided.

If people haven't been asked by their insurance company for a safety certicate then my guess would be the boat has a braided hose already. Assuming the boat has been surveyed.

I would trust a qualified gas fitter more than advice from he Boat Safety Scheme.

Somebody mentioned anonymous regulations. They weren't anymous, I was very clear that installing braided hose was, what we would now call, best practice taught to gas installers at that time. I don't know if they are still teaching that, but they would have to have a very good reason not to given the chafe issue with gimballed stoves.

Stop digging! You are missing what several posters have (correctly) stated - the British Standard does not specify any specific type of hose - only that it meets the standard. It may well be that individual fitters may prefer one rather than the other, but that is not a reason for not issuing a safety certificate. Both (or rather, either) can meet the standard.

 

[Tintin]

But the Scouts and I are in Holland!

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