Red - you are responsible for cleaning your tanks!!!

[hlb]

But it's not going to happen, is it. You put red in as long as you can get it, then you put white in, hopefully when tank nearly empty, if you want to get carried away, just put a few gallons in, then fill up again. Job done. No ones checked my diesel cars or trucks since about 1978 And that was on a dock, where red in trucks was rife.

 

[Cliveshep]

So what was all THAT about then, MBM scaremongering or just a "what if"? The only reference I could see about £1000 to clean tanks referred to Marina fuel tanks and was in the RIA (Regulation Impact Assessment) on the Customs & Excise website, not to clean boat's tanks.

 

[Malcb]

[ QUOTE ]
Its in today's MBM that arrived via the mail.


"Boaters could be forced to remove red from tanks"

"A spokesman for HM Revenue & Customs told MBM 'It will be the owner's responsibility to ensure that old fuel is removed from the tanks of their boats and only duty paid fuel is used! "

This of course means that you have to ditch any old fuel because the use of the fuel will be banned after red goes not the purchase!!!!

So do not fill up in a late minute mad rush because you will not be allowed to legally use red even though your purchased it legally at the time!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

So they use the word could , OK
The Statement by HM Revenue & Customs is pretty predictable.

So basically a loose bit of reporting IMO

Gludy, chill out /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Hurricane]

This is all BOLLOCKS (or OLLOCKS if the word gets removed)
I've said before - I'm already voting - with my feet.
And made plans to spend my money in France or Spain - in the Med.

HM Customs and Excise will get nothing.

 

[Gludy]

Malc
The heading used the word could - the quote from Customs:-

"'It will be the owner's responsibility to ensure that old fuel is removed from the tanks of their boats and only duty paid fuel is used! "

So Customs state that it WILL be the owners responsibility.

Based on Cusroms stating clearly that it will be the owners responsibility i started the thread.

I am totally chilled out over the whole matter. I am simply raising the issue because what the Customs statement does is:-

1. Clearly state that the boater will be expected to clear their tanks out of red.
2. Enforce therefore that we seem to be on the route of white only, which is backed up by other HMG comments
3. In not answering dorect questions put to Customs yet again demonstrate that they are not thinking the issues through as a whole.

Those three conclusions are evident from the quotes of Customs and HMG.
All I am doing is drawing attention to it.

Once mthey have adopted the white route the probelms are complex and messy. IMHO I do not think they will solve them. We will have an unthought through system thrust on us. That is only my opinion but it is based upon what has been stated to date.

 

[Brayman]

It was reported at tonight's ATYC meeting that a statement is likely to be made in next week's budget, thereafter a raft of parliamentary work needs doing, and there isn't time for it, so don't expect any outlawing of red diesel until end 2008 or later. Logistics are far from being sorted.
So put your welding kit away now.

 

[Gludy]

That would be some good news but I would see that as time to try and make any changes sensible not time to just sit back and wait for someone in government to hand down the law on tablets of stone that pay no regard to the real world problems.

I accept that others are content to wait and see what those politicans of much greater intelligence, knowledge and sex drive than us mere mortals hand down to us - I am not. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[SimonC]

Err.. I'd love to say yes, Andrew, but I'm afraid it's a serious story /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

We wanted to talk to HMRC about how they anticipated enforcing a possible ban on red diesel. What they told us is written in the mag.

Now I think it's a matter of waiting until next week's Budget, and we'll see where we go from there. But we did think HMRC's stance on fuel tanks (ie that they're our responsibility to clean etc) was of sufficient interest to publish even though we don't yet know what the Treasury's final decision on red diesel will be.

 

[Gludy]

Simon
Its a serious story and a story that should have been published because it iis indicationg both ignorance of the practical situation and the stance IR are currently taking.

 

[Andrew_Fanner]

Useful there Simon.

Contact MP time I think.