Red Ensign

[TrueBlue]

It\'s been absolutely ages -

since there's been a jolly good dust up over Colours.
To some extent I suppose "one" should be grateful that there is only a choice of two (in common usage, that is), otherwise there could be so many more posts.

I've not seen so much vehemence for a long time.

Having delivered all that bile, and worked out all that testos- testoster - ah; hormone, perhaps chaps, you could quieten down and get on with the genteel task of boating?

Spring must surely be here - I note that snow is predicted for southern counties after Easter!

 

[Grehan]

Re: It\'s been absolutely ages -

aye

 

[Chrusty1]

Re: It\'s been absolutely ages -

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since there's been a jolly good dust up over Colours.
To some extent I suppose "one" should be grateful that there is only a choice of two (in common usage, that is), otherwise there could be so many more posts.

I've not seen so much vehemence for a long time.

Having delivered all that bile, and worked out all that testos- testoster - ah; hormone, perhaps chaps, you could quieten down and get on with the genteel task of boating?

Spring must surely be here - I note that snow is predicted for southern counties after Easter!

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Hmmmm, funny how you see it that way? I don't recall any "bile or vehemence"....just a modicum of gentle leg tugging, still it's a funny old world, and I have noticed that blue flaggers (yes I do know it's an ensign of sorts), seem to be very touchy about having their legs tugged. I wonder why? Nerves touched perhaps?

Just a slight ring of truth is some of the opinions expressed? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[michael_w]

The "statement" I make by flying a RORC defaced blue ensign is that I'm a member of a very unstuffy club which has a worldwide membership.

If I really want to show off, my boat wears my the red ensign from my father's boat. It's seriously large at 3 1/2 yard and has been known to double as a mizzen.

 

[Chrusty1]

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The "statement" I make by flying a RORC defaced blue ensign is that I'm a member of a very unstuffy club which has a worldwide membership.

If I really want to show off, my boat wears my the red ensign from my father's boat. It's seriously large at 3 1/2 yard and has been known to double as a mizzen.

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Strewth, if you sheeted that bu99er in, it would be a go backards kite! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[JamesFrance]

If you should really want to make a statement, all you would need to do would be to enter a port in something like Maltese Falcon, or more likely anchor off.

 

[ToMo]

Ooooooh can the rest of us have a look too, just to be sure ?
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[Fascadale]

Are you sure you would not all be happier with this ?
It displays your proud English identity whilst placing it in a modern European context

Good luck

 

[Nich39Nige]

No ToMo......it's like a navies forearm clutching a bowling ball, wouldn't want to put you to shame



I wish! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Wansworth]

fOR eXAMPLE :At anchour the senior yacht club willbe first to set and strike the ensign,therefore a Red Ensign man will be attentive to a Blue ensign man and HE will be ready to act on a signal from a RYS memberOR R.N VESSEL in the anhourage.Normally a RYS member will designate a crew or steward for this task.Owners flying a Red Duster may lower their own flags;although flying a red duster does not preclude that the owner may have paid hads aboard,whilst he is not aboard the ensign is not flown therefore saving alot of shoutig if you wished to chat with same.

 

[Woodlouse]

I tell you, a damn sight more yachts that fly red ensigns have paid hands and stewards than yachts that fly blue or white ensigns. In fact, if I ever saw a red ensign being taken in at sunset then I would assume 10 to 1 that they were getting paid for it.

 

[ToMo]

Thats very kind of you but although born in England it seems I can't claim any english blood (in my veins), Dad was Scots, Mum was Greek; I don't think anyones invented a mongrel flag have they ?

 

[FAITIRA]

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I can understand you having a feeling of personal pride because you served ‘in the Royal’ but i can’t understand your need to ‘shout’ about it by flying a different flag to the rest of us. As you said in your post you served ie past tense. I have never understood why senior officials of the armed forces have the right and indeed exercise the right to retain their rank after retirement . You are correct that the blue ensign gives you no status or credibility.....but others seeing you fly it will believe you are deluded enough believe otherwise. After all...why fly it then? This is the kind of behaviour that has the rest of Europe (and the world probably) laughing at us. Do you really not think it a tad pompous?

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I was asked by a German friend (with his tongue in cheek) in Portimao, vy doss he ofer therr haff a blu flag, iss he a learner? It does provide some amusement for our Continental brethren. he! he!

 

[JamesFrance]

Well I always think that old customs and traditions are one of the more pleasant things in life.

This cynical new labour stuff leaves me cold, which is probably why I have chosen to live in another country now, where I don't understand what is going on politically.

Ignorance is bliss, as the saying goes. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[pennycar9]

I have just been reading all these posts, I cannot understand the animosity from certain quarters about the blue ensign. Brittania once ruled the waves and out of this came certain traditions and sometimes questionable formalities. I dont fly a blue, but I fly a Red at the stern and a jack from the bow, yes I am a traditionalist and proud of it. If you dont agree with people flying the blue then as far as I am concerned, tough. These people are entitled to fly it by statute, let them do it with out animosity

 

[tamara]

Ever seen the french or the Dutch, they fly,wear (woteva)
big flags cos they're proud of their country, Does it matter wheather it's blue or red, we need to stop flying small flags as an apollogy, get a big one up and be proud to be British!!

 

[AuntyRinum]

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.... but I fly .....a jack from the bow.....

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Did you know that's illegal, unless a RN ship in certain circumstances? Union that is, not Pilot, and Pilot is only legal in particular situations.

 

[pmyatt]

I'm not sure you are absolutely right about the flying of pilot jacks. If I remember correctly the original use of a pilot jack was to signify to a foreign port harbourmaster that the vessel required an english speaking pilot (in the days before radio). Since such use is now defunct, the use of the pilot jack has been adopted for other purposes, for instance, british owned barges on the continent regularly fly a pilot jack at the bow to warn foreign barges and lock keepers that their natural language is not that of the country they are in. This particular use was cleared by the DBA with the MoD.

 

[captainslarty]

Re being proud to be British ??..
Hmmm.. I prefer to think of myself as European.. Nothing much in the UK to be proud of nowadays (compared to to other countries. Sad, I know, but thats the way its going.