Recommendations for a single handed crusier-racer

it was substantially below, 10 or 12k. it was an ex liveaboard. owner became unwell. can't seem to find the info on the computer, will hunt around the study floor. isle of wight. i never went to look at it as i wanted something ready to sail away, and live other end of country.

If you could find the details I'd be interested as (a) it's in my part of the country and I can view it quite easily (b) the price falls within my budget and that of the price guideline for the model (according to the July 2009 edition of PBO which had a review of some of the Holman & Pye vessels). Thanks.
 
Looking at the Hustler 35' photos I didn't think it looked as big inside as I'd expected compared to the Arpege 30', especially useful space. Having looked at the specs in more detail it was interesting to note that their respective LWL's were 25' 9" and 26' 6".
 
hi, have pm'd you contact details etc for isle of wight one

they are not as roomy down below as a modern 35'er, classic hull shape, but beamier than most of the ones of that hull shape/era. very solid in heavy seas. of course i'm completely biased. the media in the '70s noted that one had got to windward in a f10! i've not yet tried that!

large cockpit, deep lockers, plenty stowage downstairs.

good luck finding a boat!

cheers
 
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A Carter 30, good solid boat still quick, lots of room and stowage downstairs. Good heavy weather boat and the cockpit is almost ideal for single handing. Have been across the pond etc.
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hi, have pm'd you contact details etc for isle of wight one

they are not as roomy down below as a modern 35'er, classic hull shape, but beamier than most of the ones of that hull shape/era. very solid in heavy seas. of course i'm completely biased. the media in the '70s noted that one had got to windward in a f10! i've not yet tried that!

good luck finding a boat!

cheers

Thanks, I'll follow this up and see where it leads.
 
The Piojneer 9 is a name which repeatedly comes up as a good boat in the magazine articles but single handing is a differenmt issue. Ideally that requires a boat with good directional stability and sensible size genoa, so the old IOR racers really dont suit. In short I'd forget the cruiser racer bit and focus on the seakeeping and the single handing.
 
The Piojneer 9 is a name which repeatedly comes up as a good boat in the magazine articles but single handing is a differenmt issue. Ideally that requires a boat with good directional stability and sensible size genoa, so the old IOR racers really dont suit. In short I'd forget the cruiser racer bit and focus on the seakeeping and the single handing.
Yup, I think you're right. Having looked into the specifications of the Pioneer 9 and viewed quite a few internal photos and layout schematics, I crossed it off my list. I was just interested to see the price that you can pick something like this for (admittedly, as a 'distressed sale).

At the moment the Dufour Arpege is probably at the top of my list but I'm also trying to get more information on the UFO 34 and Hustler 35 although they're probably a bit more that I can afford. Still, at least I'm narrowing down the choices and should soon be able to consider viewing a selection to see what they're like 'in the flesh'.
 
I agree with everything Lee_Shaw posted. He beat me to mentioning the She31 as well - I was looking at her on Yachtsnet last week. Your budget really isn't enough I don't think for a Hustler 35 - even if you buy the boat, all the gear, rigging, sails, etc are more expensive if you go bigger. Hustler 30 is a solid boat and a good sailer though and much more affordable. Van De Stadt Sprinter for 12.000 http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1966/Van-De-Stadt-Sprinter-1977743/United-Kingdom
Here's a link to Hustler 30s on Yachtworld in the UK http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...ice=&toPrice=&currencyid=1005&citeaworthiness and the sailor him/herself are the issues - 40' boat is more comfortable and even luxurious but not necessary.
Many long voyages have been made in small boats - see Jester Race, earlier Ostars, many others. Better to have a 28-32' boat well equipped than a larger boat you have to skimp on. Go basic - foot pump water, handheld gps, etc instead of all the toys. But go sooner.
ps The boat in my avatar is a CS27 and I'm planning for offshore.
 
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Re Dufour Arpeges, there is one for sale in St Maarten, asking US$ 15,000, which includes a wind vane and what appears to be a relatively new engine (they say 100 hrs use) - here is a link to her :
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...27&url=&hosturl=littleships&&ywo=littleships&

And here at http://www.dynamitemarine.com/ in Trinidad they have a Shipman 28 on page 3 of the yachts for sale, asking US$ 15k, including a Navik windvane and an Autohelm.
They even have a 30' Dufour 'complete with faults', asking US$ 5,500........
 
I agree with everything Lee_Shaw posted. He beat me to mentioning the She31 as well - I was looking at her on Yachtsnet last week.
The SHE31 is on the shortlist and I'm hoping to view one weekend just before or just after Christmas (when I can get some free time).
Your budget really isn't enough I don't think for a Hustler 35.
I agree, but you never know whose distressed sale is about to come up, particularly in these uncertain times (the Pioneer referred to being a prime example where the whole boat sold for less than the price of the newly reconditioned engine). I know that it's a real shame and in some ways wrong to take advantage of others' misfortune, but at least I plan to put the boat to good use and not just turn it around for a quick profit.

Now this looks interesting, although with its narrow beam and long cockpit it doesn't appear to have quite as much room below as the Arpege. Also, I was prejudiced against a spade rudder, preferring a fin and skeg, or long-keel. On the other hand a lot of work appears to have been done and if the interior layout and fittings conform to what I have in mind, then this could be a very good buy (with a discount on the asking price, of course :D ) Certainly worth considering for a view.

Better to have a 28-32' boat well equipped than a larger boat you have to skimp on.
My thoughts exactly, although I do want enough space to be able to fit out for a degree of comfort, rather than a Spartan performer. As pointed out by wotayottie I really need to concentrate on seakeeping and singlehanded 'friendliness'.
 
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