Raymarine RL82C

[Bubblegtt]

I looked at a boat earlier today and it had the above plotter, together with radar etc.

I then looked at a similar boat that had a C80 plotter on it and the salesman said that he thought that it was not possible to get new charts for the RL82C on the other boat.

I have done a bit of searching, but cannot find out if this is true or not and obviously buying a boat with obsolete equipment will reflect the price that I offer for it.

 

[Solitaire]

I looked at a boat earlier today and it had the above plotter, together with radar etc.

I then looked at a similar boat that had a C80 plotter on it and the salesman said that he thought that it was not possible to get new charts for the RL82C on the other boat.

I have done a bit of searching, but cannot find out if this is true or not and obviously buying a boat with obsolete equipment will reflect the price that I offer for it.

Is that a question ? If so, then make an offer on the boat with the C80. The C series is still supported by Raymarine and Navionics. If your budget does not allow then expect to pay >£3k to upgrade . Frankly obsolete equipment is not a negotiating point, on the other hand, just make an offer on what you are prepared to pay.

It is a buyers market so your choice.

 

[Bubblegtt]

Is that a question ? If so, then make an offer on the boat with the C80. The C series is still supported by Raymarine and Navionics. If your budget does not allow then expect to pay >£3k to upgrade . Frankly obsolete equipment is not a negotiating point, on the other hand, just make an offer on what you are prepared to pay.

It is a buyers market so your choice.

Yes ...sorry it was meant to be a question

There is a £15K difference in price between the two boats and although the dearer one has done 100 hours more and is in better condition, that difference in price is then not so good if I have to update the navigation equipment.

I will make some phone calls when everyone is open on Monday

 

[Juggler7823]

I looked at a boat earlier today and it had the above plotter, together with radar etc.

I then looked at a similar boat that had a C80 plotter on it and the salesman said that he thought that it was not possible to get new charts for the RL82C on the other boat.

I have done a bit of searching, but cannot find out if this is true or not and obviously buying a boat with obsolete equipment will reflect the price that I offer for it.

Most of the RL series plotters/radar units use Navionics C-Map NT + cards. Many suppliers around the UK including Jeppersen who are the suppliers. They are not cheap but do appear regularly on ebay. I think C plotters also Navionics but a later variety of cards. Check areas covered, availability and price of each type.

 

[Hurricane]

Is that a question ? If so, then make an offer on the boat with the C80. The C series is still supported by Raymarine and Navionics. If your budget does not allow then expect to pay >£3k to upgrade . Frankly obsolete equipment is not a negotiating point, on the other hand, just make an offer on what you are prepared to pay.

It is a buyers market so your choice.

I dissagree with you, David

The state of the equipment is a negitiating point.
Just as relevant as other things (engines and hull etc)
The C series is significantly better than the old RLs - I've use both and I know you have as well.
I'm sure an offer should reflect the replacement cost of the RL whereas the C series is more in line with currently available kit and the arguement to replace it isnt as compelling.

So, yes - reduce any offer to reflect the RL kit

 

[Bubblegtt]

I just viewed the boat again and the advert details are incorrect, as it is actually an RL80C plotter and not an RL82C. I checked the map card and it's an NT+ from 2004, so around 6 years+ out of date.

Thanks for the replies and advice

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

There's nothing wrong with the RL80C kit. I had it on my previous boat and it is perfectly functional. In fact it's still on sale new today if you search the internet. AFAIK, NT+ cards are still available widely for sale so you can get updated cards. IMHO, a decision on which boat to purchase shouldn't depend on what kind of nav kit is fitted anyway as nav kit is relatively cheap to upgrade

 

[Bubblegtt]

I have found NT+ cards for sale and we have now put in an offer for the boat. I should hopefully find out early tomorrow if the offer is accepted or not

 

[asteven221]

There's nothing wrong with the RL80C kit. I had it on my previous boat and it is perfectly functional. In fact it's still on sale new today if you search the internet. AFAIK, NT+ cards are still available widely for sale so you can get updated cards. IMHO, a decision on which boat to purchase shouldn't depend on what kind of nav kit is fitted anyway as nav kit is relatively cheap to upgrade

I agree. We have this generation of nav kit on board which is all integrated via Seatalk. I have thought about replacing it but it makes no sense from a navigation / safety perspective or financial. Sure the screen could be bigger, but that's a "nice to have" as I have no problems with the current size of screen. Other than that the kit tells me everything necessery and the radar/plotter overlay is good. MARPA works well when in open sea. All the gaurd zone stuff works well to. I got new charts last year and as far as I know they are available.

In the overall picture of buying and running a boat, the electronics are cheap (ish) and easy to replace, plus no matter what you buy it will be old hat in a year or two. Personally I would only use the electronics as a bargaining tool if it suited my position to do so. In reality however, I would not be that bothered (unless they were really ancient/broken) and it would be unlikely to be a deal breaker.

 

[Solitaire]

I'd just make the comment that you ensure that you can update the charts! If buying old kit then the charts will be out of date and "things" move. A chart plotter is only as good as the ability to update the charts on it! Otherwise it's a heap of s**t. You might as well just get a simple GPS with all the basics like lat and long, BTW, DTW, COG, SOG and the rolling road.

The advantage of paper charts is that you can manually update them. Rely solely on electronics at your peril! Trust me - I know!!

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

I'd just make the comment that you ensure that you can update the charts! If buying old kit then the charts will be out of date and "things" move. A chart plotter is only as good as the ability to update the charts on it! Otherwise it's a heap of s**t. You might as well just get a simple GPS with all the basics like lat and long, BTW, DTW, COG, SOG and the rolling road.

The advantage of paper charts is that you can manually update them. Rely solely on electronics at your peril! Trust me - I know!!

I'll second that. You can't even trust updated catridges in my experience. I bought new NT+ cartridges covering the Balearics and Costa Brava a few years ago and both the new breakwater at Mahon harbour and the new harbour entrance at Barcelona were missing, despite these structures having been around for several years. Always always take paper charts for any area you visit