Raymarine A65 Plotter

[HermannLenz]

Hallo Friends,
my (and every else ) A65 Plotter isn´t able to give the trip distance without the additional DSM Box and paddle. Every cheap GARMIN , e.g. the 128 ( also working on my motorboat )
can do. I use the A65 to show the chart , while the Garmin is plotting the distance.
I think , it must be possible , via the software in the A65 also a distance plotter to run.
Raymarine told me : NO ! Perhaps a freak has tried to write a software programm ! ? ! ?
And he was successfull ?? Please let me know , i also would like to use the trip and distance funktion.

Greetings

Hermann

 

[HermannLenz]

A 65 Plotter

Where are the EXPERTS ?

Good luck

Hermann

 

[Kipper]

My Simrad small plotter used to have a trip log without a paddle thing. it knows how far by the sat positions surly!

 

[jimg]

I am not a freak, but can read a manual!!

Not sure what you are trying to say but page 15 of the manual shows the attached diagram.

Is this not what you want?

There are aadditional items that you can add, such as trip

 

[HermannLenz]

Trip in the A65

I am not a freak, but can read a manual!!

Not sure what you are trying to say but page 15 of the manual shows the attached diagram.

Is this not what you want?

There are aadditional items that you can add, such as trip

NO !

it isn´t , what I want. I think , I can read well enough to understand the manual.
There is no way to get the trip or log - function without the ( very expensive ) Box and paddle - wheel. I can choose trip or log on the display , but no datas will be shown without that box.

HL

 

[HermannLenz]

log + trip

My Simrad small plotter used to have a trip log without a paddle thing. it knows how far by the sat positions surly!

My Garmin too , my Raymarine not.

HL

 

[Spi D]

Well, I'm no freak either and does not own an A65, but out of curiosity and in an attempt to understand the question I looked around.

I guess we have to know if the issue is with distance over ground or through water? The plotter can do both, but needs a signal from a sensor to read from water as opposed to reading GPS:

Do the new A-Series displays allow for GPS based trip / log as well as water referenced trip / log?

Two types of speed/distance can be displayed on the new A-Series Chartplotters or Chartplotter / Fishfinders , GPS speed/distance of over ground (SOG) and speed/distance through water (Speed). If the customer will be satisfied with GPS speed/distance over ground, then no additional sensors need be installed and the display would simply need to be configured to display COG/SOG on the databar and within the data applications. Data applications displaying trip and log would likewise need to be reconfigured with Ground Trip and Ground Log. However, if the customer desires to view speed/distance through water, then a speed instrument or a depth/speed/temp fishfinder transducer (new A-Series Chartplotter / Fishfinder only) must be installed.



If one owns a new A-Series Chartplotter / Fishfinder with depth/speed/temp fishfinder transducer, then the speed must be calibrated (MENU->FISHFINDER SETUP->SPEED OFFSET). If speed is provided by an instrument, then it must be calibrated via the instrument display. Failure to calibrate speed will cause the through water speed / log / trip and GPS speed / GPS log / GPS trip values not to match. Please note that log/trip will typically differ from GPS log / GPS Trip due to effects of current. Under slack conditions, calibrated log / trip should equal or be reasonably close to GPS log / GPS Trip. Once calibrated the reported speed and thru-water trip/log data will be most accurate when operating the vessel at the speed used for calibration under slack current conditions. Speed sensors have non-linear error and will deviate somewhat from the actual speed when operating at speeds other than that used to calibrate speed. Naturally, operating the vessel in current will also cause the SOG and Speed to differ as well by an amount that is proportional to the speed of the current and direction that the vessel is moving relative to the current.

The following log and trip features are supported in the new A-Series Chartplotters and Chartplotter / Fishfinders:

Log: distance through water logged by a speed through water sensor (i.e. paddle wheel). If a speed through water transducer is interfaced to a new A-Series Chartplotter / Fishfinder, this data item may be reset using the command sequence MENU->SYSTEM SETUP->SETTINGS AND DATA RESET. If speed through water is supplied from a separate instrument, this data item cannot be reset by your new A-Series Chartplotters or Chartplotter / Fishfinders.
Trip: trip distance through water logged by a speed through water transducer. If a speed through water transducer is interfaced to the new A-Series Chartplotter / Fishfinder, this data item may be reset via the command sequence MENU->FISHFINDER SETUP->TRIP COUNTER RESET->YES. If speed through water is supplied from an instrument, this data item may be reset via the instrument display.

Ground Log: distance through over ground computed from GPS data. This data item may be reset via the command sequence MENU->SYSTEM SETUP->SETTINGS AND DATA RESET.

Ground Trip 1-4: trip distance through over ground computed from GPS data. This data item may be reset via the command sequence MENU->SYSTEM SETUP->GROUND TRIP RESET->GROUND TRIP1 [2,3,4] RESET->YES.

Notes:

1. Ground trip and ground log will sum minor GPS position deltas over time. The affect of this may be reduced by configuring the GPS COG/SOG Filter (MENU->GPS STATUS->OTHER SETUP->COG / SOG FILTER) to Medium or High.

2. Ground Trips may be added to the databar by performing the following for each Ground Trip:

press the MENU button
use the trackpad to highlight DATABAR SETUP and then press the right arrow on the trackpad
use the trackpad to highlight CONFIGURE and then press the right arrow on the trackpad
press the ADD DATA function key
use the trackpad to highlight the VESSEL data group and then press the right arrow on the trackpad
use the trackpad to highlight the GROUND TRIP 1 / GROUND TRIP 2 / GROUND TRIP 3 / GROUND TRIP 4 data item and then press the right arrow on the trackpad to highlight NUMERIC
press the OK button repeatedly until all dialogs are closed

3. It can take up to one minute to record values and settings into “Non Volatile Memory”. Therefore, if you make a change to any settings and then immediately turn off the unit, your changes may be lost.

Edit:
Software for the A65 (v2.28) and DSM25 (v2.02)

Enables display of NMEA values for paddle wheel speed (VHW), log and trip distance (VLW) for systems without a DSM25. Makes sure DSM25 generated values have higher priority when DSM25 is present.

Since NMEA is industry standard any paddle sender under that specification should work.

 

[jimg]

Spi D,

Well Done, you have spent more time than myself on this and seem to have got to the possible answer.

Looks like it should be smart enough to handle the situation of with and without "paddle".

 

[Spi D]

Only if I understood the OP will this work as solution to the issue. Might not be right, tho, as one would think he'd G@@gled and hit the quoted text before posting.

Although many manufacturers tend to design their own interfaces the NMEA183, NMEA2000, SeaTalk and to some extent SmarCraft are widely used and many instruments comply with one or more standards. Some segments even use Ethernet or RS232/RS422.
I wouldn't expect Raymarine to be any different, but as such info is always available it can be checked before aquiring any gear.

 

[jimg]

I use the A65 to show the chart , while the Garmin is plotting the distance.
I think , it must be possible , via the software in the A65 also a distance plotter to run.

Have you tried interfacing the Garmin Nmea out to the Raymarine Nmeas in?

 

[HermannLenz]

A 65 , the "old" A-serie

Hallo ,

@jimg

I haven´t tried any connection between the Garmin and A65 , as the Garmin shows all the informations I desire. But I want to use the A65 alone. The Garmin is destinated to be used in an other boat.

@ Spi D

thank you for the long text , but there is mentioned the "new" A-serie , e.g. A50 and A70 ,
very expensive . The A65 was bought in 2011 as offer for less than a third part of euros
as the A50 with a smaller display. But the A65 has less features . Isn´t able to use AIS or
radar or a cam .... , therefor it was a cheap offer I´v to live with. Instead of the choosen
trip and log data it shows only a " - " . sog and cog are shown. In the most cases speed thru water ist like speed over ground on the canals in germany. On the river Elbe , Ems ....
there is no need to get corse or speed throu water.

Greetings

HL