I resently replaced my old toilet with a new Lalizas approx £100. The hand pump broke down within a month. I have replaced the pump, however, I am still not very happy with it, the pump is too stff.
My baby Porta-pottie plumbed in to a macerator pump for easy discharge ensures simple routines and has the added bonus of being a holding tank as well. Stops the ungrateful crew dumping on you while scrubbing the bottom afloat!
blakes lavavac, recomended by chandler as very simple (looks like a builge pump on the bulkhead to pump out) 5 years old no problems would recomend it.
I used to be a big fan of Lavacs (nothing to go wrong, years of proud ownership etc).
Then 2 years ago I bought a boat with two Jabscos. They look cheap, and I was all for replacing them, particularly as one wasn't working. However, 2 years on, during which two of us have lived aboard for a total of 16 months, both Jabscos have been absolutely faultless (the non-working one just needed a pump service, which was very quick and simple).
I've used both Jabsco and Lavac. I like them both, the Lavac for simplicity, but more expensive. Never had any problems with the Jabsco either. I would be happy with either.
In spite of its popularity I think the Lavac would come in at closer to £200 by the time I'd bought an external pump and re-jigged the plumbing - which would make my old Raritan rebuild look more viable.
So I hope soon to be enjoying the civilising effect of a full size Jabsco, along with Mr Dogwatch.
I have an antique BB and it has never failed, never serviced since I got boat 10yrs ago. Only thing is slight weep on pump glands which needs tweeking on grease seal.
Found out that packing can be replaced by O-rings !! That is my next small project ...... (Of course O-rings are not Blakes system at all - found out from a live-aboard who visited here).
All I do is touch of cooking oil now and again, dollop of antifreeze through for winter. That's it.
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In spite of its popularity I think the Lavac would come in at closer to £200 by the time I'd bought an external pump and re-jigged the plumbing - which would make my old Raritan rebuild look more viable.
So I hope soon to be enjoying the civilising effect of a full size Jabsco, along with Mr Dogwatch.
Thanks for all the responses!
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The price of the lavac includes the pump and you can chose an on or in bulkhead fitting pump when buying the lavac.
Some years ago I looked after a fleet of hire boats and the ones without the Lavac toilets gave persistant problems yet the lavac's worked on year after year without any trouble.
They are also MUCH easier to clean if they get blocked.
The pump comes with it. Current price from Force 4 is just under £150 You may need longer hoses, but if they are old worth replacing anyway. If you are staying with a pump wash type then a Jabsco (just about £100 standard size) would probably fit in the same place for less than the cost of spares for what is still an old loo!
Funny the Lavac, probably as I'm not used to such a machine - I found it not to my liking. Used it - closed lid and flushed. On others boats I have habit to check I don't leave anything - went to lift lid and couldn't.
My BB even missus can use that - simple as it pump for in ... separate pump for out. Leave both in down position and they close of valves / pipes. Simple. No change-over switches, no lids with vacuum seals ...
But boy are they expensive to service - and don't even want to think about price of new ! Last I saw quoted was near 2000 quid !
any one rate the RM69? I have one largely because it came with the boat, is cheap and easier to replace the whole lot using the same fixings when it gets tired rather than stripping it down, being Dutch it should be reliable
Oh, Mister Crapper,
now what’s the matter?
Fun it’s not much,
the stink slime and such,
ah, trouble’s with your flapper.
A little wad of TP stuck under the hinge of the flapper valve to be exact. It was an easy fix, but given the design I’m surprised it didn’t happened sooner, and it will likely happen again. To be fair to Raritan though, so far this has been the easiest thing to fix on my boat – I didn’t even wish once that I had three hands. Still, there are better things to do on a Saturday afternoon, especially since
last night I had
too much to drink
this head hurts bad
and that head stinks.
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Instructions
Things You’ll Need:
Toilet seat
5 gallon bucket, including lid
Toilet chemicals
Power drill
cable ties
One 4-foot length of 2x4
Step 1:
Assemble your supplies. The shorter your toilet seat is from front to back, the better for the purposes of this. You only need the actual seat part of the toilet. Get a bucket that still has the lid and the handle, as you will want to keep both.
Step 2:
Assemble the seat. Using the drill, drill a hole in each side of the toilet seat, parallel to each other. Cut two 2x4 lengths to match the depth of the toilet seat, and place the seat on top of the lengths of wood. Use your drill to drill through the holes in the toilet seat and make matching holes in the wood beneath. Use cable ties to affix the toilet seat to the lumber.
Step 3:
Prepare the toilet. Before you use the toilet, you should fill it with a gallon or so of water. Because of the construction, you can continue to use the bucket’s handle to transport it, as well as using the lid to keep it covered.
Step 4:
Assemble the toilet. When you go sailing, simply place the toilet in a flat, level area, remove the lid, and place the seat atop the bucket. When you have finished using it, simply remove the seat and replace the lid.
Step 5:
Maintain your toilet. After sailing trips, clean the toilet by dumping contents overboard. When stored, you should leave the bucket filled with water and a small amount of bleach.
Job's a good one and no worries about pumps etc. Compliments of Messers Bucket & Chuckit & Co. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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