RAL code gelcoat 1981 hallbery rassy 38?

[contessaman]

Can anyone help me with a RAL code for a match on the white gelcoat on a 1981 hallberg rassy 38?

I normally use ECF for my materials:

http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/c-606-polyester-ral-colour-range.aspx

grateful for any suggestions

ta

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Whatever it was originally, 34 years of weathering will certainly have changed it!

 

[pvb]

The colour reference usually quoted for pre-99 boats is Jotun 200NGA but, as AntarcticPilot rightly says, it won't be the same colour today. If you just have some scratches to match in, a good gelcoat repair guy will mix the right colour and it'll be invisible. It's more of an art though, than a DIY exercise.

 

[contessaman]

I've ordered some clear flowcoat, to which im adding cream pigment - I have had to modify my engine beds as part of the new engine installation. I thought I might get some white while I was at it as there are loads of holes to fill on my transom where I have removed hideous davits etc.

To be honest if I can get a half decent match for now I can get an expert to key out and re-do them when I turn my efforts to the topsides next year. just want to fill the holes before the winter sets in. My blue stripe is awful faded and worn through so theres lots of cosmetics to do in due course. However, a new engine is the current priority.

the hull looks like more of a pure white to me than an off white? even the coachroof that was once allegedly ivory has long since been rendered white by the sun...

 

[pvb]

the hull looks like more of a pure white to me than an off white?

Yes, it's quite white, but there are loads of shades of white.

The solution for the blue stripes is to paint them. I had mine sprayed with Awlgrip, which looked fantastic but cost a lot. I did it with a view to selling the boat, and it certainly made it easy to sell.

 

[contessaman]

Yes, it's quite white, but there are loads of shades of white.

The solution for the blue stripes is to paint them. I had mine sprayed with Awlgrip, which looked fantastic but cost a lot. I did it with a view to selling the boat, and it certainly made it easy to sell.

Yes. I was planning on a 2 pack paint system for that. I doubt I can afford the boat to be placed in a shed and sprayed so I'll have to roller apply a good thickness then wet and dry it smooth and machine polish beyond that. Naturally it would be an ideal time to remove and overhaul the opening portlights set in the hull sides.... oh! more work! there's a surprise!

Did you take the huge stainless stemhead fitting off or did you just spray around it?

the second blue stripe that's above the boot topping.... some clown has brush painted that with 1 pack paint it looks savage. Gonna have to strip that all off. another job for next season.....

 

[Spi D]

Time indeed is bound to have taken it's toll. Mr. Google found this:

I asked for the colour code of the blue stripes. They sent me an answer
they had earlier sent to a 352 owner:

Hi Irvine

1. Blue stripe around the cockpit: Epifanes 29. Highgloss 1-komp.
paint. 395 SEK. incl. VAT. Shipping cost will be added. Many of our customer
have used this for the wide hull stripe as well. It won´t of course last as
long as a 2-komp. colour. There is a Hallberg-Rassy Blue blue 2 komp.
Epifanes 2031-29 in shops in Finland, we do not sell that.
2. Blue waterline and the wide hull stripe was originally painted with
a 2-komp. paint named International that is since many years no longer
available. The old mix for this colour is: 30% Dark blue code, 018
70% Middle blue code, 104. Also International 708 nr: 1015 was used.
3. From 1986/87 the wide hull stripe was added in to gelcoat.
4. On todays boats the wide hull stripe is gelcoat and the RAL code is,
5003
5. On todays boats the waterline is a 2 komp. paint called Deijssel,
price 1 liter, 656 SEK. incl. VAT. Shipping cost will be added. Some of our
customer has used this to the wide blue stripe as well.
6. We sell a small gelcoat repair kit for the deck/hull,
http://www.hr-parts.com/contents/en-us/p92.html
Price, 275 SEK. incl. VAT. Shipping cost will be added.

The blue colours is usually refered as Hallberg-Rassy Blue

I hope this will help you on the way.

Cheers

HALLBERG RASSY: hull 2000 white, deck 3032 egg shell.

 

[pvb]

Yes. I was planning on a 2 pack paint system for that. I doubt I can afford the boat to be placed in a shed and sprayed so I'll have to roller apply a good thickness then wet and dry it smooth and machine polish beyond that. Naturally it would be an ideal time to remove and overhaul the opening portlights set in the hull sides.... oh! more work! there's a surprise!

Did you take the huge stainless stemhead fitting off or did you just spray around it?

the second blue stripe that's above the boot topping.... some clown has brush painted that with 1 pack paint it looks savage. Gonna have to strip that all off. another job for next season.....

The stripes on mine were sprayed with the fittings and portlights in place, just all carefully masked off. Awlgrip 2000 was used, it's not as tough as some other Awlgrip products which people recommend, but it has the huge advantage that it can be touched in to repair scratches in the future. I had the cockpit stripe and the boot-top stripe all done with the same paint. There was a standard Awlgrip 2000 colour which was an exact match for HR blue. Be careful to get an exact match - it will look wrong if the colour's only slightly out.

If the portlights aren't leaking, I wouldn't touch them!

 

[pandos]

I am currently dealing with various repairs to the gelcoat on a 1980 352. I used ivory gelcoat with some white (approx 10%) added I was able to mix a batch that is almost exactly the shade of the hull, on advice i allowed it to be a tiny bit stronger so that it has some scope to fade, but even still some of the repairs are very difficult to find when the sun is not too bright and impossible to see in bight sunshine. This is my first attempt at gelcoat repairs and it is not as difficult as it may seem.

I can send you the suppliers details after I have been to the boat tomorrow.

Tony.

 

[contessaman]

I am currently dealing with various repairs to the gelcoat on a 1980 352. I used ivory gelcoat with some white (approx 10%) added I was able to mix a batch that is almost exactly the shade of the hull, on advice i allowed it to be a tiny bit stronger so that it has some scope to fade, but even still some of the repairs are very difficult to find when the sun is not too bright and impossible to see in bight sunshine. This is my first attempt at gelcoat repairs and it is not as difficult as it may seem.

I can send you the suppliers details after I have been to the boat tomorrow.

Tony.

be grateful for that , ta

 

[pandos]

http://www.fibreglassdirect.co.uk/

supplied the material.

I used flowcoat thickened with capasil for repairs, then finished with a coat of flowcoat. If I was doing it again I think I would order gelcoat so that I could build up coats of gelcoat with out sanding inbetween and add wax to make my final coat into flow coat

I added more white today and now the colour is exactly the same as the surrounding areas after they have been cleaned with y10.

Tony.