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roberth

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Standards appear to be slipping - off the Kent coast at least. While entering Ramsgate harbour on Sunday, heard the marina use Roger in conversation with another boat looking to enter.

Bad enough, methinks, but on our return trip I heard Dover Coastguard calling up a becalmed yacht with engine trouble off North Foreland near Elbow CM. CG asked boat what the trouble was, when boat replied, coastguard used the R word again - not once but twice during the conversation.

Am I being too picky? Should I get a life? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Or does incorrect radio procedure, especially by those who should know better, annoy others too.

Over and out (Bu**er, it's catching)
 
Southampton VTS and their customers use it frequently.

I'm reminded of the film Airplane.

Roger Murdock: Flight 2-0-9'er, you are cleared for take-off.
Captain Oveur: Roger!
Roger Murdock: Huh?
Tower voice: L.A. departure frequency, 123 point 9'er.
Captain Oveur: Roger!
Roger Murdock: Huh?
Victor Basta: Request vector, over.
Captain Oveur: What?
Tower voice: Flight 2-0-9'er cleared for vector 324.
Roger Murdock: We have clearance, Clarence.
Captain Oveur: Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?
Tower voice: Tower's radio clearance, over!
Captain Oveur: That's Clarence Oveur. Over.
Tower voice: Over.
Captain Oveur: Roger.
Roger Murdock: Huh?
Tower voice: Roger, over!
Roger Murdock: What?
Captain Oveur: Huh?
Victor Basta: Who?"
 
in fact the term 'roger' means 'I understand the meaning of your transmission' /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif .....

so whats the problem ?
 
Funny - was going to post on this myself. On Sat the Hayling fleet seem to have got blown down outside Chichester and the CG was using a lot of radio time. There was a large amount of rogering going on - I seem to remember when I did my VHF course that rogering was only done by the RAF and that it was not a PRO word. Are standards slipping or has the syllabus changed?
 
I was taught that "I understand the meaning of your transmission" was covered simply by "Understood". That is the word I hear used most often, and the one I use.

Is "Roger" becoming an accepted alternative? It sounds like it is, judging by Cutter's post. If so, fine, no real objection - more curious than anything else.

Twister Ken - LoL!
 
As an ex military signaller (both CW and voice) and a private pilot (lapsed!) i see nothing wrong with Roger or indeed many of the other so called gaffs that seem to irk so many of the forumites, it is usually the the ones who are new to the game who get handbaggy about 'over and out' and the like (so what!) the purpose of voice proceedure is to get the message over in a reasonably ordered and intelligable fashion and then get you off the air.
 
Q and Z codes were designed in the days of hand speed morse so. int QRK - Interogative (what is?) my signal strength didnt take for ever to send, the trouble is people use them now in voice thinking its going to make them sound big or something, I have heard- QSY (to Freq) this means change frequency, but you can say change frequency almost as quickly as you can say QSY, it just puts you into the 'I am clever, you're not club'.
 
mmmmm

it was a question in the written examination for a caa radio license issued by hmg - so I beg to differ /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
CAA <====> MCA
Can you spot the differrence?

Let me help you, one is aviation and the other is marine and both have a number of different protocols (pro words) not to be mixed up.

Next we will have some hairy ar<span style="color:black">sed</span> Mobo screaming "Roger, Roger, wilco, raggie in my sights at 12 o'clock high, going to tip him, Tally-Ho, toodle pip, over and out"

Off now to download a copy of the Davinci Code! OUT
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brought up on a diet of rice pudding, meat and two veg, David Niven, Jack Hawkins, 'One Of Our Aircraft Is Missing' and 'The Dambusters'.

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Ahhhh m'lost youth.

You could have added "Angels One Five"

Tally-ho!
 
Link does not work and what is OK for the UNHCR is not necessarily OK in the Marine environment.
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something like

explain the meaning of the following:

a) roger
b) something else like 'wilco'
c) and another I forget, but something like 'out'

dead easy stuff - but dead easy to get wrong

there were obviously more complex questions ....... foget them now, but remember the 'roger' bit as so many ppl missuse it /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

the written exam lasted about an hour with about 25 questions, and a passmark of 80% I think ......

dumped my notes now /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

anyway look here radio proceedures and brevity codes
 
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