T_C
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Re:How do I know it works?
Ken, I do know that, the comment was made tongue-in-cheek.....
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Ken, I do know that, the comment was made tongue-in-cheek.....
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radio licence
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Twister_Ken
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Tongue in cheek
Sorry, I thought you were sucking a piece of Toblerone!
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Sorry, I thought you were sucking a piece of Toblerone!
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jeffro
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Re: Tongue in cheek
been sailing for years without a boat licence but after reading that lot have now applied for one. Been lucky in the past maybee or just lazy;
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been sailing for years without a boat licence but after reading that lot have now applied for one. Been lucky in the past maybee or just lazy;
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MainlySteam
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After reading all the posts about how wonderful licences are and how terrible those without them are, it must be true that you are all now happily wagging your tails to the tune of a finger wagging social engineering government.
Did you know that the rest of the English speaking world have all now done away with them and most (in fact I think it is all but have not checked) of it has also done away with operator certificates and some callsigns as well (the boat's name is accepted as the callsign) apart from vessels which clear for foreign jurisdictions?
John
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Did you know that the rest of the English speaking world have all now done away with them and most (in fact I think it is all but have not checked) of it has also done away with operator certificates and some callsigns as well (the boat's name is accepted as the callsign) apart from vessels which clear for foreign jurisdictions?
John
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whisper
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Doesn't surprise me at all. But you have to think about what the bureaucrats would do if we got rid of the useless bits of red tape that we are now subserviant to. /forums/images/icons/frown.gif They might be out of work and then have to get re-employed at the Job Centres to find jobs for themselves. /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif
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bigmart
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Re: Perhaps
you should also consider that certain parts of British waters are extremely overcrowded. Why not compare the population of the British Isles to your sailing area. You may get an appreciation as to why some regulation is necessary.
Martin
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you should also consider that certain parts of British waters are extremely overcrowded. Why not compare the population of the British Isles to your sailing area. You may get an appreciation as to why some regulation is necessary.
Martin
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Emergency use
Emerg. use by unqualified / unlicenced persons is not prosecutable as I understand it ... if I remember rightly - there is a clause in the radio regs covering just that situation.
I may be wrong and I'm sure that 'our resident' Radio Agency man will confirm or not ....
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Emerg. use by unqualified / unlicenced persons is not prosecutable as I understand it ... if I remember rightly - there is a clause in the radio regs covering just that situation.
I may be wrong and I'm sure that 'our resident' Radio Agency man will confirm or not ....
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MainlySteam
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Re: Perhaps
Sorry, but I am not talking about New Zealand, if you read my post you will see that I am talking about the rest of the English speaking world.
Reflecting your own words back to you - why not compare the boat population of Long Island Sound (while a big body of water it was reputed to have more pleasure boats on it than any other in the world and I doubt that has changed), parts of Florida, etc, etc. You may get an appreciation as to why regulation is not necessary.
There are actually lots of people and boats in places other than the Solent too. Have you ever seen the marina in Marina Del Rey for example - more than 6,000 berths in just one marina among others in the same area?
John
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Sorry, but I am not talking about New Zealand, if you read my post you will see that I am talking about the rest of the English speaking world.
Reflecting your own words back to you - why not compare the boat population of Long Island Sound (while a big body of water it was reputed to have more pleasure boats on it than any other in the world and I doubt that has changed), parts of Florida, etc, etc. You may get an appreciation as to why regulation is not necessary.
There are actually lots of people and boats in places other than the Solent too. Have you ever seen the marina in Marina Del Rey for example - more than 6,000 berths in just one marina among others in the same area?
John
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Mike_Martin
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Clarification supplement:
US, New Zealand and Australia have over a course of time introduced the category "Domestic Vessel" these are pleasure craft that do not carry more than VHF comms and NEVER leave domestic or Territorial Waters (TW). All vessels that do leave TW are required to have an internationally recognised Ship Radio Licence as required by international Radio regulations.
Here in the UK we have looked at the concept of "Domestic Vessel" many times, however, it always fall foul of the fact that the UK (unlike US, NZ and Aus) is only 20 miles away from the closest foreign administration and that a very large number of UK pleasure vessels routinely make passage to France, Holland, Spain and Ireland.
Mike
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US, New Zealand and Australia have over a course of time introduced the category "Domestic Vessel" these are pleasure craft that do not carry more than VHF comms and NEVER leave domestic or Territorial Waters (TW). All vessels that do leave TW are required to have an internationally recognised Ship Radio Licence as required by international Radio regulations.
Here in the UK we have looked at the concept of "Domestic Vessel" many times, however, it always fall foul of the fact that the UK (unlike US, NZ and Aus) is only 20 miles away from the closest foreign administration and that a very large number of UK pleasure vessels routinely make passage to France, Holland, Spain and Ireland.
Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Funnily what you think of as useless "Red Tape" is considered to be one of the most important sources of SAR intelligence around by HMCG. Considering that the majority of pleasure craft owners completely ignore the free CG66 Registration, they are quite right.
Mike
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Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Re: We seem to be at X-purposes
Quote "The former costs £20 (soon to be £25) pa and is the Government selling us the right to use the national resource of the airwaves and supply us with a callsign."
So what do you know that I don't?
Mike
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Quote "The former costs £20 (soon to be £25) pa and is the Government selling us the right to use the national resource of the airwaves and supply us with a callsign."
So what do you know that I don't?
Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Re: We seem to be at X-purposes
You are, in fact, breaking the Terms of your licence if you are operating outside of a DISTRESS (your own BTW) situation by not holding the Operator's Certificate of Competence.
Mike
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You are, in fact, breaking the Terms of your licence if you are operating outside of a DISTRESS (your own BTW) situation by not holding the Operator's Certificate of Competence.
Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Re: Emergency use
Keeerect, clarification.
You can use any and all means (radio) at your disposal when in DISTRESS to summon assistance.
However, this does not mean that you do not have to have a Ship Radio Licence as this must be held to have the radio available for use in the first place.
Mike
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Keeerect, clarification.
You can use any and all means (radio) at your disposal when in DISTRESS to summon assistance.
However, this does not mean that you do not have to have a Ship Radio Licence as this must be held to have the radio available for use in the first place.
Mike
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bigmart
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Re: One good Point
that you could address Mike. Why is it that companies, based in the UK have been selling, non EU type approved product, on Ebay without your organisation apparently doing anything to stop what is by your definition an illegal practise.
Martin
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that you could address Mike. Why is it that companies, based in the UK have been selling, non EU type approved product, on Ebay without your organisation apparently doing anything to stop what is by your definition an illegal practise.
Martin
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Mike_Martin
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Re:How do I know it works?
However, of course you would know how to make a TR (Passage Report) on a longer passage and would get a free radio check into the bargain.
Mike
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However, of course you would know how to make a TR (Passage Report) on a longer passage and would get a free radio check into the bargain.
Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Re: One good Point
This was addressed on this Forum prior to RA getting assimilated into Ofcom and that is still on-going.
There is a difficulty in the fact that although it appears like a company to an Ebay punter it actually isn't.
I still can't comment.
Mike
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This was addressed on this Forum prior to RA getting assimilated into Ofcom and that is still on-going.
There is a difficulty in the fact that although it appears like a company to an Ebay punter it actually isn't.
I still can't comment.
Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Re: Oh dear !
Clarification
The SRC is managed by the MCA! This is then carried out under a contract to the RYA.
Mike
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Clarification
The SRC is managed by the MCA! This is then carried out under a contract to the RYA.
Mike
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Mike_Martin
Well-Known Member
Re: No reason
As an ex-Merchant Officer I would have thought you could afford £20 a year!
Mike
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As an ex-Merchant Officer I would have thought you could afford £20 a year!
Mike
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Mike_Martin
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Re: Cheat
BTW I'm Ofcom now, apparently.
MM
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BTW I'm Ofcom now, apparently.
MM
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pugwash
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Radar...?
Radar has to be mentioned on your ship's vhf certificate? First I heard of it. Is it really true? How important is it?
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Radar has to be mentioned on your ship's vhf certificate? First I heard of it. Is it really true? How important is it?
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