Pros and cons of steel boats

[pvb]

Thoughts on the Roberts design?

Welcome to the forums!

On another thread, you responded to an 8 year old thread and when this was pointed out you replied "Didn't even realise I was posting to such and old thread."

A minute later, you posted this question on a 14 year old thread!

It's much better to start a new thread rather than resurrect these very old threads. The dates of individual posts are shown at the left hand side of the black bar above each post.

 

[Black Sheep]

I have a suspicion that new users can't start new threads, in which case they need to make loads of replies in order to get enough posts to pass probation.

I recall that new users get their posts moderated; what I don't know is whether the time shown on a posting is the time that the user pressed the "reply" button, or the time that the moderator pressed the "OK" button. I suspect the former, but if the latter that might explain the discrepancy you noticed.

I quite enjoy a revived thread - I was cheerfully reading a few posts down before I twigged the antiquity of the messages!

 

[pvb]

I recall that new users get their posts moderated; what I don't know is whether the time shown on a posting is the time that the user pressed the "reply" button, or the time that the moderator pressed the "OK" button. I suspect the former, but if the latter that might explain the discrepancy you noticed.

That could be it.

I'm not sure what's the point in moderating new users' early posts, as some go on to post all sorts of drivel without being moderated!

 

[jordanbasset]

We need Brent Swain to give us his opinion

 

[pvb]

We need Brent Swain to give us his opinion

Oh, please not!

 

[Mark-1]

It's much better to start a new thread rather than resurrect these very old threads.

I think it's personal preference, personally I'd much rather keep posts on individual topics together by adding to pre-existing threads. Multiple threads on the same topic mean a bewildering array of threads for anyone googling. Especially on a thread like this - pros and cons of steel boats.

 

[pvb]

I think it's personal preference, personally I'd much rather keep posts on individual topics together by adding to pre-existing threads. Multiple threads on the same topic mean a bewildering array of threads for anyone googling. Especially on a thread like this - pros and cons of steel boats.

You seriously want to resurrect 14 year old threads?

 

[Mark-1]

You seriously want to resurrect 14 year old threads?

Yup, I doubt the pros and cons of Steel boats have changed in the last 14 years so good to have all info on that in the same place. Obviously if the topic was a request for the best current electronic gadget that's different.

I don't feel strongly about it, but that's my view.

 

[pvb]

Bring back Brent Swain!

 

[James_Calvert]

Bring back Brent Swain!

Don't mention that name!

 

[Just_sayin']

I think it's personal preference, personally I'd much rather keep posts on individual topics together by adding to pre-existing threads. Multiple threads on the same topic mean a bewildering array of threads for anyone googling.

I agree.

I'm just about to have another navigation upgrade.

Care to share your thoughts on Decca and RDF?

From 2001:

Having put back together the hydraulics, renewed the lights and alarms in the Stowe, resealed the windows etc, finally sailed around to Chichester on Saturday. On the way I flashed up my new JRC 1500 on 3 and 6 mile range and was very impressed with the display. Was it only 6 years ago I was content bumbling around the CI in Fog without even RDF or Decca with just echo sounder, chart and pencil.? Suspect after a couple of seasons it will become indspensible. But it was good to be back on the water

 

[rogerthebodger]

Thoughts on the Roberts design?

Well to answer the posters question

I have a steel boat but a Roberts design but similar.

Roberts steel boats or fine designs and there is not doubt that steel has strength in a grounding or collision.

Preparation is the key before painting with the correct paint fo the longevity of the coating.

Mine is now over 10 years from launch and the paint was damaged about 4 years ago when out marina broke up in a storm, holing and sinking several GRP boats.

As a result my boat does need some cosmetic maintenance.

You can see the building and some of the damage on the pics in the link in my signature below.

 

[Sea Devil]

I'm in the market for a new boat - probably something around 30 foot,
and I was pondering the possibilities of getting a Dutch steel-built
yacht. However, I've never had a steel boat before. Can anyone advise
me of the pros and cons of living with a steel boat? Is the maintenance
a problem? How much of a problem is rust?

Hope these aren't daft questions - I've had a 40+ year old GRP sloop up
to now, which has been quite user friendly, despite the age, but have
no experience of steel boats- hence the questions.

Cheers

SG

I have owned around 8 boats over the years and the only one I was really glad to see the back of was a steel boat... Never ever stopped working on the rust... OK when sat in a marina or calm mooring but once you get to sea and there is salt water over the decks the rust patches grow like Daisy.. a real pain.. And worse she was so slow because of the weight ... I got her down to the Canaries ready to jump off for the Caribbean and gave up. Sailed her back to the UK and sold her... Got a Moody 36 and sailed that around the world - more or less trouble free... certainly did not require attention at every landfall

 

[Wansworth]

We need Brent Swain to give us his opinion

Brent who??

 

[Wansworth]

Steel boats in theory are better at surviving hitting things but do you really go round hitting things,The second point is the hull and deck are only about30 % of the cost of a sailing boat and the steel needs very good protection.Having owned one steel boat I agree about constant titivating.If your good at welding and fabrication it might have an attraction.

 

[Sandyman]

Steel boats in theory are better at surviving hitting things but do you really go round hitting things,The second point is the hull and deck are only about30 % of the cost of a sailing boat and the steel needs very good protection.Having owned one steel boat I agree about constant titivating.If your good at welding and fabrication it might have an attraction.

But then even if some peeps are able to do the work they don't like getting there handies dirty. have to don marigolds to
scrub the upper scupper. No, the kind of work you mention is for big strong tuff boys not Nancy Boys

 

[NotBirdseye]

I saw this thread and immediately thought: how did that bugger get back in?

Basically the only reason anyone would go for a steel boat is if they were doing something really heavy... see oil tanker or lifeboat... or tug perhaps. For everyone else just about every other material is preferable... but if steel is your material of choice for whatever reason, no one is going to persuade you otherwise so have at, let us know how it sinks.

 

[Wansworth]

A friend of mine years ago was at a wine and cheese party for ranking navy officers and he was a
proched by an Admiral,as he was in the boatbuilding business, theAdmiral asked him how concrete boats floated

 

[Birdseye]

Welcome to the forums!

On another thread, you responded to an 8 year old thread and when this was pointed out you replied "Didn't even realise I was posting to such and old thread."

A minute later, you posted this question on a 14 year old thread!

It's much better to start a new thread rather than resurrect these very old threads. The dates of individual posts are shown at the left hand side of the black bar above each post.

If you hadnt posted that, I would have replied to what I now notice is a 2006 question.

 

[NotBirdseye]

To be fair if the mods didn't want people responding to them... they'd lock them.