Greg2
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Anyone know anything about these boats? Have seen a very tidy 1977 model with 120hp Ford engines - seem a bit on the small side for a planing boat?
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Princess 37
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Moose
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Sorry, never heard of one or seen one, BUT 120hp x 2 gives 240hp which is not going to get it on the plane!!! My Phantom 37 would be underpowered if it had the KAD 42's which are 260hp each!! I have 370hp each and can reach 33kt's. So there is no hope for a 240hp
All IMHO, and I am working on the assumption that a Princess 37 is 37 feet.
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L' Moose
All IMHO, and I am working on the assumption that a Princess 37 is 37 feet.
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St3v3
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Hello Greg,
Havent owned a P37, but did own a P33 similar year, and that had 80hp mermaid (ford) engines and it did go surprisingly well,( but it didnt plane ), I put its good performance down to the large amount of torque from the engine as the capacity is large for the given horsepower. I dont think even though they will be large capacity (5.9ltr i think) that a P37 with 2 x 120hp is going to set the world on fire.
As far as the boat itself goes they were well built and a good sea boat but it is 26 years old so things like osmosis, leaking windows, hatch, damaged gelcoat are all highly likley.
I'm no expert, but I was very, very pleased with my P33 and its engines, hope some of this helps.
All the best steve.
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Havent owned a P37, but did own a P33 similar year, and that had 80hp mermaid (ford) engines and it did go surprisingly well,( but it didnt plane ), I put its good performance down to the large amount of torque from the engine as the capacity is large for the given horsepower. I dont think even though they will be large capacity (5.9ltr i think) that a P37 with 2 x 120hp is going to set the world on fire.
As far as the boat itself goes they were well built and a good sea boat but it is 26 years old so things like osmosis, leaking windows, hatch, damaged gelcoat are all highly likley.
I'm no expert, but I was very, very pleased with my P33 and its engines, hope some of this helps.
All the best steve.
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byron
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The P37 is a very small boat for its size, compare it with say an Ocean 37/Broom 37/Crown and it is positively cramped.
I would suggest to you that 120hp engines are waaay to small. The minimum would be 180s and 220s would be my choice.
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I would suggest to you that 120hp engines are waaay to small. The minimum would be 180s and 220s would be my choice.
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Nick2
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The 37 with the 120s has a Y shaped hull and the 120s were the largest engine option for that hull form. The other was more commonly fitted with 180s is a planing V shaped. My understanding that the 120s are fine so long as you dont want to go too fast and have great low speed handling advantages due to the keel.
Im sure Mike Kolling a forum member who owns a nice P37 with 120s will be along soon.....
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Im sure Mike Kolling a forum member who owns a nice P37 with 120s will be along soon.....
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burgundyben
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120 fords of that age will be dorset block, 5.9 ltr, hence lots of grunt for a 120 hp engine, dorset block is good engine but can suffer from being very smokey at low revs, tickover is a joke, nuclear winter drifts about the place.....
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mike_kolling
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As Nick says, I currently own one.
The 120s will only give about 12Knots (at least thats what I get).
They are however excellent for the river as without turbos they dont smoke much, the hull also handles very well due to the large keel.
I disagree with Byron over the space inside, I looked at Brooms and Oceans and found them depressing and very old fashioned. I much prefer the patio doors and my mobile veranda.
I also have a friend with same boat who has just re-engined with new Mermaid 135s, he is getting 14knots out of his.
I still reckon at the right price its a lot of boat for the money.
regards
Mike
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The 120s will only give about 12Knots (at least thats what I get).
They are however excellent for the river as without turbos they dont smoke much, the hull also handles very well due to the large keel.
I disagree with Byron over the space inside, I looked at Brooms and Oceans and found them depressing and very old fashioned. I much prefer the patio doors and my mobile veranda.
I also have a friend with same boat who has just re-engined with new Mermaid 135s, he is getting 14knots out of his.
I still reckon at the right price its a lot of boat for the money.
regards
Mike
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david_steward
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A friend of mine has a P37 for sale that has been recently re-engined with 2 Mermaid 300 hp lumps. The boat originally had the 180's, and only made 17 kts. The 300's are the same block and the boat now does 32 kts.
The boat will sell for about £65k, but be quick.
<hr width=100% size=1>We don't want a sports cruiser, totally impractical. Err ok then.
Dave S
The boat will sell for about £65k, but be quick.
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Dave S
oldgit
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Re: Princess 37 engine options.
I went to look at a P37,located at Dover which was used to accompany cross channel swimmers.It was powered by 2 x 55hp hp diesels!!!.
The broker was asking really silly money 60K odd .Suspect it is still up for sale.
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I went to look at a P37,located at Dover which was used to accompany cross channel swimmers.It was powered by 2 x 55hp hp diesels!!!.
The broker was asking really silly money 60K odd .Suspect it is still up for sale.
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mike_kolling
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Re: Princess 37 engine options.
Wasnt that a 38?
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Wasnt that a 38?
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oldgit
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Re: Princess 37 engine options.
Yes......still whats 12" between friends.
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Yes......still whats 12" between friends.
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Greg2
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Is 12 knots flat out or cruising? Sounds similar to my P32 which has twin 106hp engines.
Do you know what the air draught is? It looks as though it would do the bridges I want to get under but I would like to be sure...
I agree with your comments about a lot of boat for the money, they seem to be reasonably priced.
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Do you know what the air draught is? It looks as though it would do the bridges I want to get under but I would like to be sure...
I agree with your comments about a lot of boat for the money, they seem to be reasonably priced.
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byron
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You don't say where you are cruising, but it will get under the Thames Bridges as far as Oxford.
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Greg2
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I'm on the Broads - I know the bridges I won't get under but need to confirm I can get under the bridges at Gt Yarmouth (approx 11 to 13 feet at low water) on the Bure and it would be a bonus if I could get under the Haven bridge at low water to get out to sea without arranging for the bridge to be lifted (think this may be higher than the Bure bridges).
What I have heard so far lead me to think that one of these may be well suited to me - mainly on the rivers with occaisional foray's down the coast (10 knots ish is perfectly adequate as a cruising speed for us)
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What I have heard so far lead me to think that one of these may be well suited to me - mainly on the rivers with occaisional foray's down the coast (10 knots ish is perfectly adequate as a cruising speed for us)
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mike_kolling
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12K flat out, you could cruise at 10.
I only have air draft in metres:-
Gantry up: 4.5M
Top of Windscreen 3.51M
Whats it up for?
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I only have air draft in metres:-
Gantry up: 4.5M
Top of Windscreen 3.51M
Whats it up for?
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Renegade_Master
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Re: Greg
Greg I agree with Byron the Broom Crown has tons more room, including a huge aft
owners cabin. Plus she'll cruise at 15/16knts and is dead easy to handle at slow
speed due to her keel.
Seeing as your on the Broads have a look at mine on Brooms brokerage
name on ship "Finola" Brooms have jst antifouled her and carried out a thorough
polishing job so she should look fine. Well equipt too. Some forum members know
my boat too, like Boatone, Oldgit, Happy1, Coliholic, to name but a a few CGN
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Greg I agree with Byron the Broom Crown has tons more room, including a huge aft
owners cabin. Plus she'll cruise at 15/16knts and is dead easy to handle at slow
speed due to her keel.
Seeing as your on the Broads have a look at mine on Brooms brokerage
name on ship "Finola" Brooms have jst antifouled her and carried out a thorough
polishing job so she should look fine. Well equipt too. Some forum members know
my boat too, like Boatone, Oldgit, Happy1, Coliholic, to name but a a few CGN
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Greg2
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She's up for around £50k. I have found one or two with the 180 hp engines for around £45k so I think fifty is a bit over the top. Any thoughts on prices?
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Greg2
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Re: Greg
I see her every time I go to my boat - I recall you posting something about the trip up to Brundall and spotted the name some time later. I am going to the brokerage at Brooms tommorrow to look at what they have so perhaps I'll have a look when I'm there. I like the Crowns but they tend to be a bit more than the price bracket I am thinking of.
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I see her every time I go to my boat - I recall you posting something about the trip up to Brundall and spotted the name some time later. I am going to the brokerage at Brooms tommorrow to look at what they have so perhaps I'll have a look when I'm there. I like the Crowns but they tend to be a bit more than the price bracket I am thinking of.
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LiamS
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Good article in MBM not sure what month.Boat was P37 "Sharlo 2" she was re-engined and had quite a bit of cosmetic work done on interior.Owner didnt want to change his boat but needed to get more power.The whole point was that at a fraction of the cost of replacement boat he made various changes to "Sharlo" and was left with a fine boat.Try "Sharlo" in search engine on this site to find which issue it was.
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byron
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Re: Greg
There's nothing to stop you bidding what you can afford for a Crown. When I sold my Ocean 3 years or so back he got it for a song because I wanted it gone. Similarly I took a goodly drop on my 435 for cash.
Boats ain't moving too well at the moment and a cat can look at a King (get it? King! Crown!) oh well, I tried to be amusing.
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There's nothing to stop you bidding what you can afford for a Crown. When I sold my Ocean 3 years or so back he got it for a song because I wanted it gone. Similarly I took a goodly drop on my 435 for cash.
Boats ain't moving too well at the moment and a cat can look at a King (get it? King! Crown!) oh well, I tried to be amusing.
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