carvebear
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Anyone have any information on these?
Princess 330
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hlb
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Yes. It's just like my P35, except a bit smaller.
SolentPhill
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see and we thought these forums were not helpful
PowerYachtBlog
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seakeeping and stability is also much better for the 35
the 330 also has a bit of rolling goin on with little waves, still if the price is much cheaper then a P35, it should be worth considering
the 330 also has a bit of rolling goin on with little waves, still if the price is much cheaper then a P35, it should be worth considering
Whitelighter
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Ithink these were mainly single cabin with secondary sleeping in the salloon. Hankered after one of these in my youth and they still look good today. If you can stretch to a P35 it is much more boat than the 2ft suggests
DAKA
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Princess 330 circa 1987/1991
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F157824
Its draw back is it is too short really as a viable shaft boat.
Compare it to a Fairline cornich on 200hp outdrives.
You will get more space and better speed/economy.
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F157824
Its draw back is it is too short really as a viable shaft boat.
Compare it to a Fairline cornich on 200hp outdrives.
You will get more space and better speed/economy.
carvebear
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I prefer the 330 or 315 but feel the 315 would be to tippy? Not sure about outdrives heard the servicing bill can be pricey!
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Its draw back is it is too short really as a viable shaft boat.
Compare it to a Fairline cornich on 200hp outdrives
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What does that mean? The P330 is the best part of 37ft long and IMHO that's too long for a flybridge boat to have outdrives rather than too short to have shafts. Also, most Corniches (which were shorter than the P330) were shaftdrive and they were good sea boats with shafts although probably slower than the outdrive version
Its draw back is it is too short really as a viable shaft boat.
Compare it to a Fairline cornich on 200hp outdrives
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What does that mean? The P330 is the best part of 37ft long and IMHO that's too long for a flybridge boat to have outdrives rather than too short to have shafts. Also, most Corniches (which were shorter than the P330) were shaftdrive and they were good sea boats with shafts although probably slower than the outdrive version
volvopaul
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Corniche is a better boat and value for money, Ive worked on 330 and 35 and considered buying em all plus a 315 which is very short and dumpy for a flybridge, the 330 has a better main cabin than a tricab corniche the cabin under the saloon is comparable with a targa type boat, I would say that the 35 is a better bet but is slower and heavier than the 330 and fairline.
I would also say that the equivalent fairlines of that era are better built than the princess.
I would also say that the equivalent fairlines of that era are better built than the princess.
hlb
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I know where theres an excelent P35 for sale. Much better than a P33. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
PowerYachtBlog
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Corniche is a better boat and value for money, Ive worked on 330 and 35 and considered buying em all plus a 315 which is very short and dumpy for a flybridge, the 330 has a better main cabin than a tricab corniche the cabin under the saloon is comparable with a targa type boat, I would say that the 35 is a better bet but is slower and heavier than the 330 and fairline.
I would also say that the equivalent fairlines of that era are better built than the princess.
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agree with all this
the Corniche where very strong beasts of the time, I think the battle is between the Corniche and the more spacious and luxurious P35
Corniche is a better boat and value for money, Ive worked on 330 and 35 and considered buying em all plus a 315 which is very short and dumpy for a flybridge, the 330 has a better main cabin than a tricab corniche the cabin under the saloon is comparable with a targa type boat, I would say that the 35 is a better bet but is slower and heavier than the 330 and fairline.
I would also say that the equivalent fairlines of that era are better built than the princess.
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agree with all this
the Corniche where very strong beasts of the time, I think the battle is between the Corniche and the more spacious and luxurious P35
blueglass
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you heard right. Outdrives on a boat of that age are nothing but a pain.
longjohnsilver
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DAKA
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Hi Mike,
not really wanting to get into a argument but in my opinion the cornich was also too short for shafts.
It would not surprise to fine the cornich has a larger girth displacement than the Princess.
For boats aimed at performance they are too short for the shafts to get anywhere close to an economic angle , balance of craft is wrong and they run at awkward angles.
Sealine introduced tunnels in shorter boats and modern tunnel boats can accept shafts producing better performance.
The Princess 330 and 35 do not have tunnels, the 360 does and produces a whole different ride along with sealine 350, F36, F37.
not really wanting to get into a argument but in my opinion the cornich was also too short for shafts.
It would not surprise to fine the cornich has a larger girth displacement than the Princess.
For boats aimed at performance they are too short for the shafts to get anywhere close to an economic angle , balance of craft is wrong and they run at awkward angles.
Sealine introduced tunnels in shorter boats and modern tunnel boats can accept shafts producing better performance.
The Princess 330 and 35 do not have tunnels, the 360 does and produces a whole different ride along with sealine 350, F36, F37.
hlb
RIP
Well, I would not have kept my P35 for over ten years, if it had not done everything it says on the tin. Built like a brick sh*t house and a joy in following seas. Ok, not the fastest kid on the block.
DAKA
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It had not been my intention to call into dispute the P35.
I had not said it was too short for shafts.
The smaller 330 is IMHO.
The choice between
P330
corniche with shafts
Corniche with legs is simple Corniche on legs
To add in a P35 if funds will stretch then obviously the P35 knocks spots off the other three.
I had not said it was too short for shafts.
The smaller 330 is IMHO.
The choice between
P330
corniche with shafts
Corniche with legs is simple Corniche on legs
To add in a P35 if funds will stretch then obviously the P35 knocks spots off the other three.
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DAKA, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. IMHO, the efficiency loss of shaftdrives compared to outdrives is more than outweighed by it's advantages in terms of easier manouvreability, steadier feel at sea and lower maintenance costs for 30ft+ flybridge boats. For sports cruisers, I would say 40ft+
I once had a Sealine 305 with outdrives and it was pretty horrible boat in most respects and we did a lot of cruising in company with some friends who owned a Corniche with shaftdrives. I was often on their boat and it felt way better at any speed than my Sealine. Yes it was a bit bow high at planing speeds but that was correctable with tabs
I will take issue with you on tunnels. I stand to be corrected but I think the first tunnels were introduced by Olesinski into Princesses and Fairlines in the late 1980's, possibly the Princess 435 being the first UK production boat with tunnels faired into the hull but I'm really not sure on that. On the other hand, I don't think Sealine have ever used tunnel hulls but again I stand to be corrected
I once had a Sealine 305 with outdrives and it was pretty horrible boat in most respects and we did a lot of cruising in company with some friends who owned a Corniche with shaftdrives. I was often on their boat and it felt way better at any speed than my Sealine. Yes it was a bit bow high at planing speeds but that was correctable with tabs
I will take issue with you on tunnels. I stand to be corrected but I think the first tunnels were introduced by Olesinski into Princesses and Fairlines in the late 1980's, possibly the Princess 435 being the first UK production boat with tunnels faired into the hull but I'm really not sure on that. On the other hand, I don't think Sealine have ever used tunnel hulls but again I stand to be corrected
DAKA
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I was only talking about tunnels on short boats 30-33 ft hull length.
Agreed 305 didnt have them, on outdrives so ne need.
The tunnel was used on the 350 as it allowed the prop to go into the hull line and so create a better angle of shaft.
Handling of outdrive boat can be an issue and I agree with your point.
Perhaps we will never agree as there isnt actually a perfect boat (apart from my Princess 360 of course) /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Agreed 305 didnt have them, on outdrives so ne need.
The tunnel was used on the 350 as it allowed the prop to go into the hull line and so create a better angle of shaft.
Handling of outdrive boat can be an issue and I agree with your point.
Perhaps we will never agree as there isnt actually a perfect boat (apart from my Princess 360 of course) /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
hlb
RIP
Never thort you wos. Just had to reply to some one. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
DAKA
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/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I thought I had got over that problem, /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif raggies just arguing for the sake of it, they knew they were wrong /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I thought I had got over that problem, /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif raggies just arguing for the sake of it, they knew they were wrong /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif