Price for new mast/rigging/sails

[dignity]

We're looking at an unfinished Bruce Roberts spray 38. It requires internal finishing which isn't a problem as I've completed boats before.

The part I'm unsure about is she's not rigged, obviously this will be an expensive item, just looking for a guide price for how much it would cost for.

Main Mast, Main sail, fore-sail, roller reefing, shrouds etc,etc as I've never dealt with sail-boats in the past.

Any help would be appreciated.

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[racingron]

Not having the rig dimensions to hand I would reckon about £3000 +VAT for a good main and furling genoa.

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[global_odyssey]

Sloop or ketch rig?
Here are my guide-cost guesses, assuming you put it all together yourself...

Main Mast & Boom £5000 (Selden or similar)
Mizzen & Boom £2000 (if applicable)
(spars depend on fittings, level of complexity (in-mast halyards, reefing, winches, etc)
Main Sail £1000 (Crusader Sails)
Mizzen Sail (if applicable) £600
headsail - Furling system £1200-1500
Roller furling Headsail - approx. £1250-1500 (Crusader)
Standing Rigging Swageless and 1x19 stainless wire (8mm?) £2500 sloop (£3250 Ketch (inc. u-bolts for chainplates) (Maybe less if swaged fittings or talurit, depending on quality of turnbuckles, etc.
Running rigging - how long is a piece of rope? Probably between £400 - £800 depending on spec.

What does this total?
Now add 50% just in case I've got it entirely wrong.
Maybe less if you shop around a bit - can make a BIG difference.
This is an educated guess based on exactly the same pricing process recently undertaken for our Nantucket Clipper 31 yawl.

Hope it helps.

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[AndrewB]

Sounds right, although ...

A couple of years ago the guy next to me where I was laid up was quoted £8,000 for a fully rigged mast for a BR37 he was building. He saved nearly all of it by hunting around for a second hand mast - and buying one new but damaged, which he shortened to the required length by cutting the damaged bit off the top. Then he rigged it himself using Sta-lock terminals. Total cost about £2,000, I think he said, excluding boom and spinnaker pole.

Talurit splices should not be used on rigging for this sized yacht.

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[Mudplugger]

Re: Sounds right, although ...

Am in process of placing order for 51'6" Main Mast, Boom, Spinny Pole, Standing & Running Rigging, Headsail Furler, et al. Price Quoted by Z Spars, Hadleigh, Suffolk. @ £5700 plus Mr Brown's slice, Sailspar @ Brightlingsea Quote £7500 plus VAT. Sails from Dolphin Main @ 484' and No 2 Genny 500' & Storm Jib. £3800.... Hope this Helps. Tony W. (Also in Fitting out Tin Bath stage.)

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[brianhumber]

Couple of years ago actual price for replacement new Seldon mast, standing rigging, running rigging, geny and mainsail for 45' was around 20K supplied, installed and tuned. Fractional rig and good quality sails and rigging.

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[dickh]

Speak to Z-Spars at Hadleigh in Suffolk - very helpfull and good prices.
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.zsparsuk.com>http://www.zsparsuk.com</A>

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[MIKE_MCKIE]

Re: Sounds right, although ...

"Talurit splices should not be used on rigging for this sized yacht."

Can you advise why please? I routinely use talurit splices on steelwire ropes up to 32mm diam and this is for lifting applications in a marine environment, so safety is absolutely paramount.

Be very interested why it isn't good enough for yacht rigging??

Cheers
Mike


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[Birdseye]

Re: Sounds right, although ...

Fair question - I would have thought they would be OK, but ugly.

Only thing I can add to the above comments is to say dont be frightened of doing your own standing rigging using Stalok terminals. Not only is it satisfying, but its easy to do, and saves a serious amount of money compared to using a rigger./.

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[AndrewB]

Re: Sounds right, although ...

I'm no expert, and guilty here of parotting received wisdom. But several riggers I have dealt with have discouraged its use on stainless standing rigging - indeed, I've heard it suggested that even bulldog grips are better. <A target="_blank" HREF=http://satsop.olympus.net/wkstone-0.7.5/webkeystone.py?UserID=biz_briontoss&Profile=message_board/viewMessage.prof&sortBy=Date&id.vInt=2457&password=>HERE</A> for example is the view of a top US rigger, posted just yesterday. And in the past there seem to be a disproportionate number of reports of Nicopress/Talurit terminals failing.

Possibly the difference is with the applications, maybe your wire is galvanised, presumably not permanently loaded like standing rigging. But then again, maybe its time for a fresh look?