rafiki_
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Keep the apartment?It would be perfect, although I’d prefer an end of garden mooring…….
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henryf
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New boats are constantly growing and have been for some time. A 12m berth might have been seen as the norm a few years ago - and they were issued with properties in places like Port Solent, but these days a new flybridge motor boat needs something bigger.
The last expansion Haslar undertook was to create larger berths, all of which got quickly taken. If they could press a magic button most marinas would have fewer but larger berths.
If you can create really big berths there is a healthy demand as can be seen from places like Gunwharf Quays and indeed Haslar who can accommodate large vessels.
Henry
Lucky Duck
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Somewhat anecdotal, but the current google earth image confirm my feeling that the larger berths are under utilised e.g. empty or a berth longer than the boat occupying it. Particularly C pontoon extension.
My berth is empty on GE so of course it could be those empty spots are simply because the berth holder is somewhere else.
My berth is empty on GE so of course it could be those empty spots are simply because the berth holder is somewhere else.
ashtead
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It never seemed to be in constant use at Haslar -? Personally I prefer Gosport BY or if too busy then Endeavour is simpler to use
ari
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Berths should be longer than the boat occupying it. I appreciate many aren't, but they should be. Allows you to tie the boat up properly, but also to get onboard without having to reverse in given that modern boats are so high they're impossible to board anywhere but the bathing platform (which many owners can't do, either due to lack of ability or lack of vision astern from the helm. Or both).
rafiki_
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Most mobos reverse in. Most yachts moor bow in. To prove the point, Mango moors bow in
ari
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Agreed. And there's another problem which is that many marinas were built in the eighties and the berths just are not wide enough for modern boats which are much fatter (because space sells). Sometimes fingers can be moved further apart, however if marinas are full, that leads to the question of managing the fact that you end up with physically less berths (not to mention less revenue as a result).New boats are constantly growing and have been for some time. A 12m berth might have been seen as the norm a few years ago - and they were issued with properties in places like Port Solent, but these days a new flybridge motor boat needs something bigger.
The last expansion Haslar undertook was to create larger berths, all of which got quickly taken. If they could press a magic button most marinas would have fewer but larger berths.
If you can create really big berths there is a healthy demand as can be seen from places like Gunwharf Quays and indeed Haslar who can accommodate large vessels.
Henry
ari
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Indeed they do, but not necessarily through choice. As mentioned, for many modern boats, if the finger is not long enough then you're forced to do so just to get on and off the thing!Most mobos reverse in. Most yachts moor bow in. To prove the point, Mango moors bow in
I prefer bow in as it gives more privacy and a far nicer view across the water when in the marina, rather than staring at a pontoon and the boat directly opposite (and its occupants, if they're forced to reverse in also).
dunedin
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Finger berths longer than the boat is a wild aspiration for many / most marinas. With a 12m boat rarely get allocated a finger beyond about 10m - and in Atlantic France we often had to fit onto an 8m finger.
ashtead
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If you are longer on a 12 m berth and your immediate neighbours are say 10 to 12 one of the risks faced is some muppet leaving their berth earlier one morning and wacking your stern as they leave their berth. There’s a certain American cowboy at Haslar who’s known for this activity. We much prefer to be next to a 47 ft Hanse and a comparable sized jeaneau DS to give some protection . At Haslar I suspect the Berths on H odd opposite us are ones to have if say 46 ft plus but we have a few upper 40ft on our side.
Sticky Fingers
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That’s correct. To address this, at least as far as Swanwick Marina was concerned, Premier Marina’s spent a very significant amount of money installing new pontoons and reconfiguring the entire Marina apart from the fuel berth. It has to be said that the new layout is significantly better, and it additionally resulted in more berths, not fewer (as a result of a more efficient layout rather than some voodoo magic).
dunedin
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Already been hit on the stern once this year. Usually have a fender on the back but had omitted doing so as just arrived.
Now added our 4 foot wide stern fender - on the davits.
When leaving for a few weeks in some of the tighter berths in France I started mooring stern in - as the Rocna discouraged close contact by others.