Portrait of the ideal boat.

[Sybarite]

Just read that.

You may may be interested to know that there are many Rustlers that after 8 or so years have sold for the same amount that the were originally bought for. I know this as I tracked every sale made for a number of years. Of course there is a cost of money, but that aside.

Four years may be a little tight, but unless you can find a nearly free Feeling your suggestion is well out.

That was on another thread based on a real example.

 

[Sybarite]

Well put. I know a number of recent newbies who bought three cabin boats on the salesman's advice, and now wish that they had gone for the owner's version. Somewhat to my initial surprise, the sales pitch for three cabin boats was more often than not largely built around allegedly better resale prices - hardly a ringing endorsement of the product's ability to remain in the hands of its first owner!

This one ticks a lot of the boxes:

http://www.inter-yacht.com/Vilm/Vilm117/Vilm117Spec.html

 

[Blueboatman]

Wow.
Without the brief to get a second loo in or a walk through passage under the cockpit, everything else looks really spacious. Love the all wood interior and low cockpit

 

[KellysEye]

Spot on for a long distance boat, I'd add heavy displacement but then that's what we had.

The description is like an Amel but having been on one I don't like them. The rig is too small, horrible fake teak decks and plastic interior.

 

[dt4134]

I thought this was meant to be the French ideal of a long distance cruising boat.

http://www.jp54.fr/

 

[Sybarite]

Spot on for a long distance boat, I'd add heavy displacement but then that's what we had.

The description is like an Amel but having been on one I don't like them. The rig is too small, horrible fake teak decks and plastic interior.

When you are long term cruising you don't want to be having to take reefs in every time the wind gets up a bit. On an Amel, reefing is anyway just a push button job. Fake teak decks enter into the Amel design philiosophy: zero wood outside, zero maintenance. Wood is alright when its new but when you come round to having to change it it costs a fortune.

Plastic interior : where? The heads?

 

[Sybarite]

I thought this was meant to be the French ideal of a long distance cruising boat.

http://www.jp54.fr/

I'm sure it would be fun to sail but I think it would be too twitchy for long distance sailing.

 

[prv]

The rig is too small

When you are long term cruising you don't want to be having to take reefs in every time the wind gets up a bit.

If that really mattered to someone, then perhaps they should just leave the first reef in all the time?

Personally I'd want the potential to set lots of sail, so that I could keep moving across the ocean in light winds without drinking diesel.

Pete

 

[Sybarite]

If that really mattered to someone, then perhaps they should just leave the first reef in all the time?

Personally I'd want the potential to set lots of sail, so that I could keep moving across the ocean in light winds without drinking diesel.

Pete

As far as Amel is concerned their latest generation, the 55 & the 64, are designed for the first time by independant architects with a brief to improving performance. The sail area of the 55' is proportionate to that of an HR 55 which weighes more. And you can have teak decks as an option.