Porta Loo question

[tidclacy]

Planning a trip to Holland next year but have read that black discharge is no longer acceptable in inland waters. What have others done? Is a small porta loo the answer and if so which one would anyone recommend? Does this ban also include urine discharge or just number two's?

 

[sailorman]

Off we go

 

[lenseman]

Multiple posting of exactly the same question is frowned on and secondly, this question is actively being discussed on the forums right now if only you had searched a little harder before asking the same questions:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298588

 

[pcatterall]

His question is partly to do with regulation rather than pp vs sea toilet.
Cant see how they would enforce anti- piddle regulation

 

[sailorman]

His question is partly to do with regulation rather than pp vs sea toilet.
Cant see how they would enforce anti- piddle regulation

the subject like red diesel is well covered hereabouts just search it

 

[V1701]

Mine (the other thread) is a completely different question and the forum is not easily searched if you don't know how to use Google to do it so I think some posters are being a bit harsh. To answer the OP, my understanding is a PP will do you for inland waterways. Buy one on the basis of how many people will be using the PP, bigger holding tank for more people, e.g. They usually vary between about 10 & 20 litres, bigger holding tank is taller loo as well so think about where it's going to be used...

 

[flipper]

Planning a trip to Holland next year but have read that black discharge is no longer acceptable in inland waters. What have others done? Is a small porta loo the answer and if so which one would anyone recommend? Does this ban also include urine discharge or just number two's?

Harry

Drop a PM to Moodysabre - he did an extended trip last year. I did read somewhere that even if you have a portaloo and a sea toilet, you could still have issues if the sea toilet can only discharge outboard ie. no holding tank.

Patrick

 

[flipper]

Multiple posting of exactly the same question is frowned on and secondly, this question is actively being discussed on the forums right now if only you had searched a little harder before asking the same questions:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298588

I think the OP came in here looking for advice from people who would be most likely to have made this trip recently due to the proximity of Holland Vs ECFers.

 

[sailorman]

Harry

Drop a PM to Moodysabre - he did an extended trip last year. I did read somewhere that even if you have a portaloo and a sea toilet, you could still have issues if the sea toilet can only discharge outboard ie. no holding tank.

Patrick

there will be 1000s of Dutch boats still with sea toilets. in desperation a SM bag placed into the toilet ( under the seat ) would no doubt work, then dispose ashore. on small boats a holding tank is not possible.
if one has a "token" PP who is to know if a sea toilet has been used anyway.

 

[MoodySabre]

Harry

Drop a PM to Moodysabre - he did an extended trip last year. I did read somewhere that even if you have a portaloo and a sea toilet, you could still have issues if the sea toilet can only discharge outboard ie. no holding tank.

Patrick

They will expect (should the poo police look)(which they never have) to find your loo outlet seacock shut. There is no requirement to have alternative loo arrangements - the only requirement is not to discharge any black water on inland waterways. This is quite reasonable given that some areas are non-tidal and the other not much tidal. In practical terms there are pump outs for holding tanks but not everywhere. I couldn't possible admit to having, on occassions, emptied my full holding tank in tidal waters when nobody was looking

A holding tank or PP are useful in UK marinas or places like Southwold or Brightlingsea where easy access to a public loo is not easy and in locked marinas when you don't fancy a walk. A worthwhile addition if you have the time, money and space. If not then take a PP - Make sure it has evidence of use

 

[sailorman]

They will expect (should the poo police look)(which they never have) to find your loo outlet seacock shut. There is no requirement to have alternative loo arrangements - the only requirement is not to discharge any black water on inland waterways. This is quite reasonable given that some areas are non-tidal and the other not much tidal. In practical terms there are pump outs for holding tanks but not everywhere. I couldn't possible admit to having, on occassions, emptied my full holding tank in tidal waters when nobody was looking

A holding tank or PP are useful in UK marinas or places like Southwold or Brightlingsea where easy access to a public loo is not easy and in locked marinas when you don't fancy a walk. A worthwhile addition if you have the time, money and space. If not then take a PP - Make sure it has evidence of use

Honour & Offer

 

[Colvic Watson]

Planning a trip to Holland next year but have read that black discharge is no longer acceptable in inland waters. What have others done? Is a small porta loo the answer and if so which one would anyone recommend? Does this ban also include urine discharge or just number two's?

Can't understand the grumpy replies, especially on the ECF, which is supposed to be friendly. There may be one or two hung over forumites though

Fortunately MoodySabre has come along and given the up to date information.

 

[xyachtdave]

A holding tank or PP are useful in UK marinas or places like Southwold or Brightlingsea where easy access to a public loo is not easy

I was on the pontoon in Brightlingsea when a smallish mobo ran aground several times entering at LW and was eventually towed off to the pontoon.

A crew member disembarked, walked up and down the outer pontoon, before stopping to ask where the showers were....she also seemed annoyed the pontoon wasn't connected to the shore!

 

[tidclacy]

Thanks for the helpful replies. Will purchase small porta loo for use when other facilities not available. Hope to test at the boat show, only for sitting on of course!

 

[DanTribe]

Thanks for the helpful replies. Will purchase small porta loo for use when other facilities not available. Hope to test at the boat show, only for sitting on of course!

I suspect you mean Portapotti. Portaloos are the mobile cabins you see on building sites or outdoor events. Might be difficult to fix on deck

 

[nigelm]

not sure where you are on east coast but i got a small portable toilet from here http://campingandleisure.co.uk/acatalog/campingaz-euro-wc-platinum.html


it seems fine to us and will be used when the sea-loo cant be

just a thought ........

 

[Sixpence]

not sure where you are on east coast but i got a small portable toilet from here http://campingandleisure.co.uk/acatalog/campingaz-euro-wc-platinum.html


it seems fine to us and will be used when the sea-loo cant be

just a thought ........

No room for a holding tank on Sixpence and not in a position to buy a sea loo, we have one of those tucked under the step just inside the hatch. Close hatch, extract dunnie, sit & deposit while doing cup of tea or chatting on vhf. Luxury, pure luxury

There does seem to be an element of Southcoastitis creeping in here lately though
No more Mr Grumpies would be good

 

[ditchcrawler]

I have been to Holland for the last few years and as I do not have a holding tank in 2010 I used a Potapotti and it was fine.There are other solutions.The Dutch have a system called Flextoilet bags which they sell in their chandlers.You can use them in any toilet.Have a look at www.flex-toilet.nl It is not as bad as it sounds.Have a look at the video.A dutch friend tells me that many of their boats do not have holding tanks so they carry these bags so that they can show them to any enquiring authorities.They do not use them and reckon that you can get away with number ones out of sight and use the shore facilities for number twos.

 

[sailorman]

I have been to Holland for the last few years and as I do not have a holding tank in 2010 I used a Potapotti and it was fine.There are other solutions.The Dutch have a system called Flextoilet bags which they sell in their chandlers.You can use them in any toilet.Have a look at www.flex-toilet.nl It is not as bad as it sounds.Have a look at the video.A dutch friend tells me that many of their boats do not have holding tanks so they carry these bags so that they can show them to any enquiring authorities.They do not use them and reckon that you can get away with number ones out of sight and use the shore facilities for number twos.

like i said
Honour & Offer
see #9

 

[Wunja]

I have been to Holland for the last few years and as I do not have a holding tank in 2010 I used a Potapotti and it was fine.There are other solutions.The Dutch have a system called Flextoilet bags which they sell in their chandlers.You can use them in any toilet.Have a look at www.flex-toilet.nl It is not as bad as it sounds.Have a look at the video.A dutch friend tells me that many of their boats do not have holding tanks so they carry these bags so that they can show them to any enquiring authorities.They do not use them and reckon that you can get away with number ones out of sight and use the shore facilities for number twos.

+1

Consider that your potti will still need emptying. Marinas with over 500 berths are supposed to have pump out facilities, but they are few and far between.