Popped into the Southampton boat show yesterday.....

Can I just say that I was not trying to start the socialist revolution, just agreeing with the irony that the poor pay to get less than the rich get for free.
But I would like to add, the general public can see all these boats for free at any high end marina. Antibes and Cannes (without the boat show) will have an impressive display of all the latest high end vessels.
So, why do they pay and queue up in the midday sun to get in? The answer is obvious, they are self qualifying. They want to go on some boats and feel they should be allowed!

All this queueing you mention...… I went and no queueing on the day I was there
 
I am sure that you are right, in many cases. Having said that I would consider myself Mr average (despite someone suggesting in another thread that I have so much money I would be worried about having to declare it if we stay in the EU) and I positively do not hate or envy the rich. I know enough of them to have the utmost respect for the work, effort, risk and stress that many of them have endured to get to where they are today, and have the utmost respect for them. I also, on occasions, get to share their expensive toys without having to pay for them, of which I am very grateful. One day I may even get to own their luxury items when they near the end of their useful life, and I get a little taste of the high life for comparatively little money. So, rich people, please keep buying new so that I have something to buy used many years later. :D

Dare I suggest that this is something the rich peddle to make themselves feel better
 
I am sure that you are right, in many cases. Having said that I would consider myself Mr average (despite someone suggesting in another thread that I have so much money I would be worried about having to declare it if we stay in the EU) and I positively do not hate or envy the rich. I know enough of them to have the utmost respect for the work, effort, risk and stress that many of them have endured to get to where they are today, and have the utmost respect for them. I also, on occasions, get to share their expensive toys without having to pay for them, of which I am very grateful. One day I may even get to own their luxury items when they near the end of their useful life, and I get a little taste of the high life for comparatively little money. So, rich people, please keep buying new so that I have something to buy used many years later. :D


Heck CLB you need a few of those caps to doff I would think
 
Actually yours was more a viewpoint than a factual observation, and as such it's bound to be as correct as any viewpoint can be.
You completely missed my points, anyhow.
1) I called your statement condescending, not wrong.
2) Ref VAT, rest assured that I don't need any technical justifications - I'm not saying I could write the whole book, but surely several chapters of it.
What I was wondering is if you can find an ethical justification to the following fact - and this is indeed a FACT:
When two private individuals, both citizens of the same EU Country and fiscally resident in it, buy respectively a 4m RIB and a 40m Prin, what happens is that the first pays VAT to his Country, and the second doesn't.
Now, if your mate with the Benetti hopes to convince the 4m RIB chap that this situation makes perfect sense, on the grounds that he spent Xmas in the Caribbean and the boat is registered in Georgetown, I have two words for him: good luck.

Very Very well said
 
All this queueing you mention...… I went and no queueing on the day I was there
When I arrived there was a good size queue, so I went for an early lunch and returned during lunch. The queue had disappeared by then. The reason of course is the increased security due to recent outrages. On a previous year, the queue was ridiculous and the wait interminable
 
We didn’t queue to get in the entrance when the show opened yesterday but we did have to queue to get over the bridge - it wasn’t a security issue just the sheer number of people and the bridge being a bottleneck. A tad irritating as it wouldn’t be n issue if the other gates could be used.
 
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Oh gosh! There’s been a communication mishap! (By me:(). The queues I’m talking about where at Cannes. I’ve not been to SIBS. Désolé
 
Spent yesterday at the show. Glorious weather had brought out the crowds. It felt a little smaller than prior years, but all the important stuff was there.
My boat of the show was the Azi 60 Fly. Gorgeous boat, well built and finished. The only slight niggle for me was there was something of a Princess in the saloon. A certain HenryF. Might there be a change of allegiance? :encouragement:
Great to hook up with some forum friends too.
 
We didn’t queue to get in the entrance when the show opened yesterday but we did have to queue to get over the bridge - it wasn’t a security issue just the sheer number of people and the bridge being a bottleneck. A tad irritating as it wouldn’t be n issue if the other gates could be used.

The bottleneck occurs because the first section opens at 09:30 but the rest of the show opens at 10:00. This helps to get the crowds in off the street, but many then just stand and queue at the first bridge for half an hour. Get there at 10;30 and there would probably have been no queue.
 
The bottleneck occurs because the first section opens at 09:30 but the rest of the show opens at 10:00. This helps to get the crowds in off the street, but many then just stand and queue at the first bridge for half an hour. Get there at 10;30 and there would probably have been no queue.
The bridges irritate the hell out of me at SIBS. You used to be able to get into the show from the Town Quay entrance and if you didnt want to go over the bridges to the other side you didnt have to. Similarly there didnt used to be the one way system for access to the pontoons which makes you walk to the other end just to get out. Its the IKEA system of making you walk past every stand in order to get to the stand you want and I, for one, don't want to be herded like that which is one of the reasons I have not regretted missing SIBS this year
 
The bridges irritate the hell out of me at SIBS. You used to be able to get into the show from the Town Quay entrance and if you didnt want to go over the bridges to the other side you didnt have to. Similarly there didnt used to be the one way system for access to the pontoons which makes you walk to the other end just to get out. Its the IKEA system of making you walk past every stand in order to get to the stand you want and I, for one, don't want to be herded like that which is one of the reasons I have not regretted missing SIBS this year
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Didn't go this year. Plus the admission price of £27 means no last minute change of heart to go to the show.
 
The bridges irritate the hell out of me at SIBS. You used to be able to get into the show from the Town Quay entrance and if you didnt want to go over the bridges to the other side you didnt have to. Similarly there didnt used to be the one way system for access to the pontoons which makes you walk to the other end just to get out. Its the IKEA system of making you walk past every stand in order to get to the stand you want and I, for one, don't want to be herded like that which is one of the reasons I have not regretted missing SIBS this year

It’s a little different Mike, each of the bridges to the pontoons are now 2 way. So come and go on whichever walkway is most convenient.

But getting into the show was a pain. We came across on the ferry from Hythe, I had my RYA ticket, my 2 mates bought theirs with the ferry ticket. The nearest entrance allowed me in using my RYA ticket, but not the other 2, so meant a long walk and road crossing to the main entrance. Quite ridiculous.

The funniest sight I saw at the show on Friday was a chap on the Fairline Targa 65, shirtless, sporting a good beer belly and tattoos. I’m surprised they let him on. Maybe he’s an existing good customer so they turned a blind eye to the fact he wasn’t wearing a shirt. I saw him again later at the Chinese food stand, again shirtless. He did rather stand out as the only person dressed (or not!) in that way!!
 
The funniest sight I saw at the show on Friday was a chap on the Fairline Targa 65, shirtless, sporting a good beer belly and tattoos. I’m surprised they let him on. Maybe he’s an existing good customer so they turned a blind eye to the fact he wasn’t wearing a shirt.

Ah but doubtless he had been 'qualified' because he was wearing a probably fake Rolex

I take it you got shooed away in short order from the Fairline stand yourself?
 
Ah but doubtless he had been 'qualified' because he was wearing a probably fake Rolex

I take it you got shooed away in short order from the Fairline stand yourself?
Fortunately for everyone else, I wasn’t shirtless, and had no problem getting on any stand except Princess, so gave them a miss. Fairline were very accommodating.
 
Hi Paul, must have missed you!
We we were shown around the Y85(?) but despite Princess' generous hospitality in their suite, my fave boat of the show was the Cranchi T34 (only £800k so a bargain by comparison) it was interesting though to compare the quality and feel of them both.
Yes, dreaming but I believe brand loyality is nutured and cultured, we are big fans of Princess, because of the way we have allways been treated.
One of their guys even helped Father in Law (c/w walking sticks) up onto the flybridge so top marks there.
I have never had to pay for a ticket to the show as our local broker or marina usually has a few to give away

ps still miss the London show
 
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