Poole Hbr Motorboat Wakes

[Romanbaths]

My aren't we getting our knickers in a knot. Been motor boating in P.H. for 20years
lets keep it FUN, you just keep your head screwed on right and get on with it. Pet hates are raggies who don't use their engines in the thick of it and make your heart turn over when they tack! Large Sunseekers and the like who rush past and try to tip up our 22 -Jealous, what me !!! Agree with you notices are not what they should be, but I have seen people chased this year to get a telling off or worse. We will be sensible and survive it all, we love it.

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[duncan]

another Poole boater - welcome!

feel free to come up to any of the forum boats flying their burgees and claim a free beer - or add your boat's name to your profile so that we can scrounge a beer off you!

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[Robin]

So it's you newcomers causing the problems then! I've been sailing in Poole for over 30 years and actually remember when you could anchor for a swim in Studland without being in fear for your life. Last Sunday we arrived back from the Solent mid morning because of an early tide, I suggested lunch in Studland but SWMBO said no way, it is too unpleasant there anymore and we went back on our berth. In days of yore we all used to complain about the wash from Truckline which used the old main, now east channel, and could throw a 4' wall of water up on shallow moorings. Nowadays that wash is equalled by all and sundry, and lord help anyone going ashore from a mooring by dinghy.

Yes I agree about tacking raggies (but be fair, some do not have engines), we often sail back in but only with a free wind under headsail only if we can keep at reasonable speed. We actually find it safer to drop our mainsail outside of Poole rather than inside where the wash can be much worse than the swell offshore.

The harbour is wonderful and should be so for everyone, it should not be spoiled by a minority be they wash creating pbs or unpredictable raggies ( we don't like them much either, and we have some idea of what they might do and when).

What can be wrong about wishing for a more peaceful relaxed harbour? Why should we just sit back and let a noisy, inconsiderate minority spoil this wonderful place for the rest of us?

If you live locally as well as moor here you may also have followed the recent Bournemouth swimmer death reports in the Echo, even after that incident they are still having to chase powerboats and jetskis out of the yellow buoy area, one even refusing requests from the lifeguards until backed up by the police. There is no harbour in Bournemouth, these idiots all come out of Poole, either moored here or launched here. I don't think adopting a chilled out attitude is a valid option anymore, these prats can kill.


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[Guest]

Re: What are you talking about, man!

Studland is too busy? It might be more pleasant if we could clear the day trippers off the beach ;-0, but I see no problem in anchoring there, either for the day or overnight. The only problem areas are right in under the cliff by Old Harry, and along the 280m bouy line, as both areas are used by waterskiers. We spend hours off the Milkmaid Bank, and never feel crowded.

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[Robin]

What is WHO talking about?

Who mentioned 'too busy' or 'crowded', I didn't for sure.

<The only problem areas are right in under the cliff by Old Harry, and along the 280m bouy line, as both areas are used by waterskiers>

Well that nails it doesn't it - that is about the whole of Studland Bay covered, so we are agreed after all! As you say, the water skiers are a problem along the buoy line that is the 5 mph, (note mph not knots) limit line off the beach, these seem to be mistaken for slalom marks.

We draw 2.08m or 6'10" in old money, Milkmaid Bank is a no go area as is Mobo corner by the path.

But as you say it IS OK overnight, when the jetskis and all are tucked up in bed or at the pub. Maybe that is the answer, those of more relaxed persuasion should only come out at night.

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[Romanbaths]

Probably met lots of you, in Studland. Fletcher 22 S.C. diesel, Cream with red stripe, "Aquae Sulis". Out of Poole Boat Park. Sometimes seen trailing Geoffs or
disappearing over the horizon on route to goodness where next! Me Anne, He Tony!
"POOLE IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE".

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[duncan]

ah - weren't we rafted up around 5 weeks ago in Studland ; tender towing exercise as well I seem to remember?

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[pcv]

Last year when sailing out of Pool Hrb in a GP14 for a days sailing, as I approched the entrance, a large 36 + motor boat which was about to overtake open up to beat the ferry.
Thanks that all i can say, for if the skipper or there passengers had looked round thy would have seen a totaly swomped GP14 and owner, thanks and luckey its only a short swim to a sand bank to recover.
I now own a 20ft day sailer moored at Dartmouth, what a differance to Poole.


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[Col]

Thats the guy with the GSD if I recall.

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[Guest]

I must say I can't wait until next week when after a number of years trying to get enough money together for a mooring in Poole, spending those long cold weekends working on the boat here in the sunny midlands, only to read these threads and start to wonder why I bothered!
Maybe I should give up the idea of sailing and stick to golf!

Is it really as bad as I now think???




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[duncan]

the entrance itself can be manic especially when - 1. big tide flooding when lots trying to get out or ebbing when they are all trying to get back in because this leads to significant variation in boat speeds/wakes - with the tide significantly more boats stay at displacement speeds through the water but can still cover the ground at 8 knots! 2. avoid about 30 mins after Poole Bridge has opened on the way out or before it opens on the way back in.
It really isn't difficult to miss the madness with a little planning.
Where is Astral going to be moored? I will look out for you through August.

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[pheran]

It isn't just Poole or The Solent. It even happened to us on an MBM cruise! Bobbing about in our 33' motorboat waiting to enter Le Harvre, the cretin in a Trader 44 just behind us, one of the MBM 'trusties' suddenly yanked his trottles wide open and roared past us about 20 feet away. We had only traveled 8 miles up the coast, in a flat calm and thus had not 'rigged for sea' as thoroughly as we would normally have done. The result was utter chaos, several items smashed, food spilled on the carpets and a SWMBO in tears and threatening never to go boating again. Its a matter of lasting regret to me that when we berthed, I only gave the bloke a verbal lashing. I should have smacked him in the mouth!!

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[Robin]

And that's what we get when trying to take down the sails, standing on the coachroof hanging onto a wildly gyrating boom, if it doesn't crash into your skull first!

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[pheran]

I am happy to confess that I was a raggie for years before converting to stinkpots. I fully appreciate the problem and try and act accordingly on my own boat. We've recently changed to a largish, full displacement mobo which despite its bulk, produces very little wash or swell. So I'll just nip orf and give my halo a bit of a polish!!/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[Guest]

Holes bay, I suppose I've got to contend with the rush to get out when the bridge opens and to get back in. Will I need a vhf?
Any advise please



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[xstucker]

We were moored just of the North East side of Brownsea a couple of weekends ago and watched all of the lunatics rushing back up the harbour in their little sub-30ft motor cruisers all evening. I guess all the roaring along will save them 10 minutes in getting back to their car which they probably race home in, saving a futher 10 minutes on the 70 mile trip. The strangest thing is that they have spent all day within about 2 miles of the entrance sun-bathing, or bobbing around in Swanage bay fishing, so the 20 minutes saved is completely irrelevant. At dusk we watched a huge Sunseeker come in, followed by an open launch in the same livery (the latter clearly the security men for the people on the former). They blasted through the harbour mouth, and immediately sat down to a reasonable pace to 'potter' up the harbour. It's not a class-divide, just a minority who just don't think. They are the same people who sit in the middle lane of the motorway, and when they move, only do it to carve you up.

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[duncan]

No VHF needed but you are going to be limited by the opening times I am afraid. Better pack a sense of humour and a coffee flask!
VHF can bring an advantage if a commercial calls oup on 14 for a lift - they have them pretty much on demand and call up real early to ensure it ready for them!
Look forward to meeting you

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[smee]

I have boated in Poole harbour since 1993, on both yachts (my own) and parents and friends motorboats of various descriptions, including the type that could cause wash if ill used!!

Despite my post that started this thread, I still love and enjoy Poole harbour and the surrounding area, and even with these morons on ocassions, it is pretty hard to beat! I now have my own boat down on the Costa Blanca due to berth costs, but I really miss being able to go to Studland and Pottery Pier, as there is nothing like that where I am now moored. So I get my Poole Harbour "fix" on my friends IP 24!

I have been moored up above the bridge previously (in Holes Bay & at Cobbs), and I found the best thing to do when coming in, was come in last or nearly last, behind all the Cobbs Quay-ites that are in such a hurry, and dawdle in last! (Not too slow that you upset the bridge man mind, he seems to have a short fuse, I have heard him shouting over the public address system at someone really slow i.e: they were halfway along the quay making for the bridge, and the previous yacht was going through the bridge!!).

Most of the time although the bridge is supposed to open at 30 mins past but it rarely does and is usually about 35 before the traffic stops! I am not certain of the morning openings but PM it is 1230, 1430, 1630, 1830, 1930 (if in demand?), 2130, 2345 (on request). There is frequently one at 1730 (possibly commercial) and 0930. If you listen on 14 you can hear when commercial lifts are and can sometimes sneak through then, but only if you are going the same way as boat that requested, and that might not include yachts (unless the bridge man is in a good mood?). I have been thwarted like that once!

If you are going out and it is busy, hang back a bit until you can see them moving, then just zoom a bit closer and get in the queue, the "pool" near the bridge can get quite hectic, and its a bit nerve jingling when everything is down there trying to sit still, and shifting around all over the place!

I am sure you will find it is worth it and it is a fantastic place to be on a boat, its just that ocassionally you can get rather peeved by the morons of the world, which is pretty much the same as every where else!!! It is also somewhat better in the week!

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