pooh wins battle with loo.

[jezjez]

I foolishly blocked the loo with kitchen roll instead of toilet roll. It felt as if something gave but not the pooh. The plunger now goes up and down and nothing happens. I imagine the end piece has come off.
Can i remove and clean and fix with boat still in water or will we sink?
Sadly I don't know the make of the loo at the minute. It's white, if that helps.

 

[ccscott49]

Probaly a jabsco and if its an old one, the piston has probably come off the rod, because the old ones had circlips to hold it on and the replacements have a nut, not one from the forum, a real nut!

 

[tillergirl]

Umm look. Turn off both sea cocks and you can remove the loo, whatever make it is without sinking the boat!!! You seriously need to say what make of loo it is. It obviously isn't a Lavac since that doesn't have a plunger.

 

[jezjez]

It's the most common one - I've had same on other boats...
grey handle into white fitting, little blue plaque with name on. [make of not Tim the Toilet]
Err... otherwise white all over. Smells all the time.

 

[Rustyknight]

Possibly "Par Brydon"

Does the pump look like this?

 

[jezjez]

wow - yes, I think it does. My guess is that I've sucked the black bit off the end.

 

[johnalison]

The old ones had the piston retained by circlips which corrode but current models have a retaining nut and are quite robust.

Get it off! as they say

Have fun

You may need breathing-apparatus.

 

[ccscott49]

Bad case of read the other posts first?

 

[jezjez]

It makes most sense if you start from classic boat onwards...
Just turn off seacocks and take it apart, then?
It is only 1-2 yrs old, I believe.

 

[graham]

Dont want to put you off but in this hot weather you may want a face mask with a smear of winter green or something ...

 

[Rustyknight]

I did notice the thread you posted on the Classic Boat forum blamed "an idiot", apparently to lead us to believe it wasn't you......... yet on this thread, you take the blame yourself.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[johnalison]

Now, where are my glasses?

 

[mikejames]

Yer lucky.
If the blockage occurs in the right place the valve in the bottom of the bowl area will invert with the pressure. It can be surprising what then happens.
Just dont peer down into the bowl while pumping hard.

 

[hlb]

You should have read the exploding bog story, not available since about 1998.

You should be able to sort it out, without removing boat from water. Depends whether these eventualities were taken on board when it was built. Close sea cocks if available. Then pull everything to bits, till you find the problem. If stuff is oldish, like 10 years or more, much may be covered in lime scale from the sea water. It's easier and better to just replace all pipes. Fixtures and fittings. The blockages will just keep happening if you dont.

Ask me about the time I had diarea and there was no toilet paper. So pocked my hand out the door and asked wife. She handed me some engineers hand wipe stuff, which promptly blocked the toilet. Or the time another woman!! Said she'd lost something, but not on purpose. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[quaelgeist2]

If it is actually the one shown,then you can get a replacement pump as a whole.
May allow you to limit the ugly task to removing a few screws at the bottomof the pump and wiping up whatever has come out.
Screw new pump in place and test (after reopening the seacocks ;-) )
Good luck.
If that doesn't worlk, then you want to remove the outlet hose and check the rubber valve there. May have blocked there.

 

[simonfraser]

if it's an old loo, you might want the replace the pump now, it will be very messy and a new one is not expensive imho !

 

[Graham_Wright]

I wonder if, having removed it, you could do the dismantling uncderwater?

Should keep the smell in but the vis might detriorate eventually.

 

[ccscott49]

Just use the old farmers trick, breath through your mouth, not as bad pong them. Give it a damn good hosing down first! Preferably with a pressure washer and stay up-wind!