Please folks, talk me out of this madness - 26m Canados!

[MapisM]

Today I looked again - this time on an iDevice rather than the pc I was using before and noticed that the pix were reversed.

Yup, I covered that in the section "@jfm" of my post #25!

 

[MapisM]

Just re-read you post above - I missed your SWMBO's comments.
But it sounded to me that she might like to have 2 crewMEN on board?

Actually, since she didn't specify that, I did think of hiring a couple of crewgirls instead.
But as I already mentioned, I'm too old and lazy to afford a divorce...

 

[MapisM]

SL might be a league below the Canados

I see that Deleted User already said it all about that.
But just for the records, Canados actually used to be a tad above SL up to the end of the wooden era, imho.
Otoh, from the early 90s onward, SL steadily went from good to better - and the results speak for themselves.
Fwiw, if I would seriously consider a 70/75 footer, not only I agree with Deleted User that including the SL72 in the shortlist would be a must - I'd rather put her right at the very top of it! :encouragement:

That said, thanks Portofino, but I'm afraid that even in the current market, nobody seem anxious enough to get rid of a decent SL72 for a price I could afford - and that one is no exception! :nonchalance:

 

[BartW]

Bart, i have some good friends who live in Bari, and they have friends who have been boating there for decades. I'll ask them for their opinion of the best refit shipyards along that stretch of coast.

I'm sure epoxy is the best option, but is it crazy to consider a wet room flooring system? Mine was layed on wooden flooring, and can be tiled over, so could be suitable for sealing under teak decking?

Hi Nick, yes that would be great if you could asc comments about this yard, or other yards in that region
the one in Monopoly is "Viro Mare "
they have two yards actually, one for smaller boats in the center of Monopoly,
and another out of the center for +20m boats, with a big shed.
same Q for Paolo.

what do you mean with "wet flooring system" ?
my thinking is that epoxy with glass mat will give additional structural strength,
and avoid long term cracks between the deck, and the superstructure and all other parts build on the deck
(if we bring the GRP 5...10cm up against the vertical borders)

actually the biggest "job" will be repairing or replacing the old wooden bulwarks.
we followed MapisM's sugestion last year and made holes in there for ventilation (only along the bottom, ) and this made a big difference,
bulwarks are now completely dry inside,
but now, some parts of the plywood are becoming completely pulverised inside, afther the yearly seasonal moistering (x25!)

 

[BartW]

You'd better not say that in earshot of anyone from SL They consider themselves right up with their best and having seen one of their factories and had the opportunity to see the care with which their boats are put together I wouldn't argue with that. I have to admit that if I were to get another planing boat, a nice used SL72 would definitely be on my shortlist

+1

 

[BartW]

...Canados actually used to be a tad above SL up to the end of the wooden era, imho.
Otoh, from the early 90s onward, SL steadily went from good to better - and the results speak for themselves.
Fwiw, if I would seriously consider a 70/75 footer, not only I agree with Deleted User that including the SL72 in the shortlist would be a must - I'd rather put her right at the very top of it! :encouragement:

That said, thanks Portofino, but I'm afraid that even in the current market, nobody seem anxious enough to get rid of a decent SL72 for a price I could afford - and that one is no exception! :nonchalance:

a waw, I didn't realise that Canados ones used to be above SL
the last few years C has been suffering a lot, despite some brave and interesting attempts to restart the factory.
atm the factory in Ostia is closed AfaiK
And indeed if I would be in for another boat, SL would be on top of my list. (but still from the P range, not yet SD )

 

[Hardmy]

@MapisM
This or a SL72' would be my absolute dream boat. She looks to be in mint condition. I would be personally afraid of wooden boats, but you are already well versed with timber and seem to be comfortable with it. Apart from the maintenance I couldn't afford, my SWMBO would never participate in such crazy project. Handling such huge vessel with only two people feels challenging. Anyway, this is just THE dream boat. You should do it, you only live once!

re the yard specialized with wooden boats
I spent one winter at Viro Mare. I was very happy with them, albeit my jobs were only minor compared what Bart needs to do. I know a German who's boat is getting a complete paint job there. He is also happy so far. They build fishing boats, the last time I was there, they were outfitting a fiberglass MY hull from another yard. I got some pictures of a big wooden Canados they are refitting right now. Bart, you should have a look yourself or send your Italian friend there. Maybe another forumite is in the area and could pay them a visit? It's a traditional family business, building boats is a profession which passes from father to son.

Besides the fact, that they seem to know what they are doing. Monopoli is very conveniently placed between Bari and Brindisi with lots of flights all-year around to Europe. The town itself remains lively also during the winter.

 

[BartW]

although she's surprisingly similar,
I don't think the boat above is Matuska

there are a few details that are unlikely to be changed during another more recent refit,
such as:
- Matuska has 6 steps up to the deck, the boat above only 5
- the stepts to FB are on SB side on Matuska, above they are on port side (pics are not flipped)
- the platform on Matuska is slightly shorter, and wider covered with Teak.
-...

nevertheless interesting to see a almost exact same mod
one of the Guy's on the pic is Mr Zichinolfy, the crew chief on my rebuild project remember...
I've e-mailed you a scan from the article (all in Italian)

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

a waw, I didn't realise that Canados ones used to be above SL
the last few years C has been suffering a lot, despite some brave and interesting attempts to restart the factory.
atm the factory in Ostia is closed AfaiK
And indeed if I would be in for another boat, SL would be on top of my list. (but still from the P range, not yet SD )

They opened again in the beginning of the year. I would say Sanlorenzo and Canados where always very close to each other.
The first having the North Italian industrials from Milan, and the second those office people from Rome.

I think Canados was always a bit more custom builder, and even though flatter Vee aft and lighter to SL those Canados had a always a better ride.
Canados also had plenty of military experience in the 60s up until the 80s, which Sanlorenzo did very little off if any.
Saying all this I would always say the build quality of Sanlorenzo was better in any age to same age comparison. Some years more to others.
In the eighties I think Canados was a bigger boat builder, the 70 and 58 series sold a lot.