Please cut your wash near moorings

Good analygy - but it is a convenient anchorage as is South Mimms service station...

Easier to get a breakfast at South Miimms. Mind you a breakfast afloat always tastes better. It must be the fresh air. (Provided the smog is not blowing over you from Fawley :mad:
 
Please mind your wash (707)

Yes it was....would you have a word if he's near you?

"On a side note, my 23ft Motorboat would create more wash at 6kts than it would at 20kts. Since at 6 it would be pushing just beyond it's hull length speed and hence burning lots of fuel and pushing lots of wash from its stern."

Err...go less than six knots? ;)

Came back from Halling last Sunday 4.00pm, he was moored up and locked up on the outside of Medway Bridge Marina.
 
A quick comment on the whole course thing, one of the things that used to worry me as a sailing instructor years ago was that people would do a week long course and then be under the impression that they were sailors. There is a big difference between being able to helm a Wayfarer and being a sailor.

Speaking purely for myself, a week long course left me with a firm impression of how much I still had to learn. But it's a start. And I can handle something a good deal more demanding than a Wayfarer.
 
Just reflectiing in general.
Number of events that stick in mind caused by speeding Mobos...... Lots
Number of incidents involving saily boats that caused consternation.......H,mm must be one somewhere !
Mind you not been boating that long so fairly limited experience.

Of course there'd be no mental bias in your recollections.

GET REAL!!!!!!!!!

No one set of water users are perfect, but it boils my piss when I constantly read drivel
by one "type" of boat owner bemoaning the alledged bad manners of another "type" of boat owner.

Personally, I think Raggies aren't that bad and feel us mobo'ers should cut them some slack. I mean, at the speed they travel, no wonder they get frustrated ...... especially when they could be in the garden mowing the lawn or covering their stint at neighbourhood watch.
 
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Englander !

My boat was built at upnor, near the medway yacht club! Englander.

Bit of fred drift!!

Quite possibly Here
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and this is probably from the same yard ?
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I had my foot broken, my toes dislocated and my calfs severely lacerated 2 years ago when a boat made such a big wash in a no wash zone throwing my legs between my moored boat and the quayside.

I will now have aches in the ankle for life as a result of some idiot who wanted to do 10kts because that was the speed limit... ignoring the "NO WAKE" requirement. Never caught them... too busy writhing in pain!

Some people just don'y give a ... about anyone else... and never will so it seems.
 
hmmmm try launching and recovering on your own when a jet ski speeds past or even worse mobo who should know better , i recently saw to teenagers holding on to dads pride and joy while he went to get the car and trailer , que a t**t on a jet ski doing a doughnut showing off to the croud of people that are always ther to see you fluff up a recovery . boat bouncing aronud young people holding the ropes for grim death , boat crunching on the slip , !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I had my foot broken, my toes dislocated and my calfs severely lacerated 2 years ago when a boat made such a big wash in a no wash zone throwing my legs between my moored boat and the quayside.

I will now have aches in the ankle for life as a result of some idiot who wanted to do 10kts because that was the speed limit... ignoring the "NO WAKE" requirement. Never caught them... too busy writhing in pain!

Some people just don'y give a ... about anyone else... and never will so it seems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B1L4mVgIBE&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=DCCD9E425AB79637&index=54
 
Unfortunately very little will stop it.Ultimately All boat owners will suffer more people will get killed, there has been some , Kirsty MacColl ,The rib that hit the mooring buoy and others. when enough when enough people die The govenment will legislate.As in the case of sailing schools (the canoe accident) We will all need licences.. Then speed traps every where .Speed bumps? They will find away ! Councils will will get powers to fine More taxes etc
People will lose there licences and still there will Richard heads.
 
Unfortunately very little will stop it.Ultimately All boat owners will suffer more people will get killed, there has been some , Kirsty MacColl ,The rib that hit the mooring buoy and others. when enough when enough people die The govenment will legislate.As in the case of sailing schools (the canoe accident) We will all need licences.. Then speed traps every where .Speed bumps? They will find away ! Councils will will get powers to fine More taxes etc
People will lose there licences and still there will Richard heads.
There are always those who think the rules don't apply to them. There is a prosecution going through at the moment of a rib driver who was stopped after the Cowes fireworks for going past the wave screen in Lymington at 25 knots in the dark. Wouldn't accept advice from the HM, gave him a mouthful of abuse and shot off at speed again. It will cost him money, just a shame they can't take his boat off him too before he kills someone or even himself.
 
Not excusing the total morons who are a small minority that unfortunately show up in any field of activity, but is there a fundamental problem here?

A lot of speed limits are set at 6 knots. The area covered by the speed limits is often quite extensive, which challenges the patience of people with boats capable and accustomed to going a lot faster. 6 knots is a very awkward speed for many mobos as they are just thinking of getting up on the plane but still some way from achieving it. Going any slower makes the helm think he could jump overboard and swim faster.

So who do we blame? The authorities that set a speed limit which is inconvenient to obey? The boat designers for designing boats that behave so badly at a commonly enforced speed limit? The owners for buying a boat that behaves so badly at a common speed limit?
 
"don't really care about the speed limit"
"just by posting this kind of drivel, is a them and us argument."
"but this is nonsense."
"but it boils my piss when I constantly read drivel"

They say a picture is worth a thousand words

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I spent most of yesterday going up and down Chichester Marina with a trainer and my partner.

Was an extremely busy day with lots of boats going out to the locks.

The boats causing the most wash were the small tenders, followed very closely by the 40 foot plus sailing boats.

We spent most of the time doing around 2 knots as were practising close quarters manoeuvres and the only time we got overtaken was by one tender who cut across our bows as we went to port and a couple of sailing boats.

One 50 plus foot flybridge mobo went through a bit fast but he didn't move us at all with his wash but the ribs and sailing boats did.

Just my observation.
 
Quick view of wash round this weekend up the Itchen and The Medina.

1) Worst by far was a rib going up ro Drivers Wharf yelled at by several people, went past with nose in air.
2) Police rib up the itchen
3) Cowes harbour master
4) Folly taxi

No bovver from any big mobos that I saw.

Assorted jet skis being variously offensive

Otherwise everyone was looking pretty chilled and unhurried.

Nearly got run down by a trimaran going up the Itchen. Not really but he crept up pretty close behind. Too damned quite those things.
 
"I would hazard a guess that the large majority of raggies have an RYA qualification"
Yeah right!

On the subject of idiots afloat perhaps it would be a good idea to tell yachties that they are the give way vessel when overtaking a motorboat!!!



.... ah but, there's no such thing as a give way vessel in the col regs. A motor boat being ovetaken by a sail boat is considered the stand on vessel. Ultimately it is the responsibility of both vessels to avoid a collision though.
 
I spent most of yesterday going up and down Chichester Marina with a trainer and my partner.

Was an extremely busy day with lots of boats going out to the locks.

The boats causing the most wash were the small tenders, followed very closely by the 40 foot plus sailing boats.

We spent most of the time doing around 2 knots as were practising close quarters manoeuvres and the only time we got overtaken was by one tender who cut across our bows as we went to port and a couple of sailing boats.

One 50 plus foot flybridge mobo went through a bit fast but he didn't move us at all with his wash but the ribs and sailing boats did.

Just my observation.

Had my first encounter with a tetchy yachtslady (well, two ladies actually)... I was sticking to the speed limit in Christchurch harbour admitedly wondering where to 'park' as I followed the buoys through the channel and was decended upon from behind by a fairly substanial yacht demanding where I thought I was going.. she did offer some helpful advice as to mooring up 'over there with all the other boats' and clearly wanted me to get a move on.. the conversation to clarify where 'over there' was was met with a terse response to say the least.... certainly came across as a higher than thow impatient attitude that I never understood when crewing the Kodak Gold yacht and still don't as a mobo owner... shame that folk find it within themselves to a) indulge in what apparently seems to be some form of boaty snobbery and b) allow themselves to get wound up in what should be a relaxing and enjoyable pastime.. I was simply sticking to the speed limit with a careful eye on the amount of wash I was(nt) creating and found put under pressure to speed up and create more wash in and around some small craft, indeed, I had to speed up in the end to avoid being rammed in the rear... a scary thought (being rammed in the rear that is ;-) )
 
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shame that folk find it within themselves to a) indulge in what apparently seems to be some form of boaty snobbery and b) allow themselves to get wound up in what should be a relaxing and enjoyable pastime.. I was simply sticking to the speed limit with a careful eye on the amount of wash I was(nt) creating and found put under pressure to speed up and create more wash in and around some small craft, indeed, I had to speed up in the end to avoid being rammed in the rear... a scary thought (being rammed in the rear that is ;-) )

So true, on the way down towards the lock and petrol berth, SWMBO was at the helm with the instuctor I was on the port side looking around and noticed a very small sailboat with I think four people in, all with funny hats.

As we passed them going, I swear at no more the two knots I gave them a friendly smile and a wave. Nothing, just kepts staring at us like we had gone by on the plane at 30 Knots. Sod em!
 
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