Please cut your wash near moorings

[Nauti Fox]

Was it named 707?

Yes it was....would you have a word if he's near you?

"On a side note, my 23ft Motorboat would create more wash at 6kts than it would at 20kts. Since at 6 it would be pushing just beyond it's hull length speed and hence burning lots of fuel and pushing lots of wash from its stern."

Err...go less than six knots?

 

[JKay]

That would be Drifting

 

[flyingscampi]

I'm moored on the Medway at Upnor and have plenty of power boats going past. 99.9% of them behave perfectly correctly but as with anything in life there is always the couple of idiots that just get on your nerves by having a large wash and passing very close to the moored boats.

Sailing club RIBS are the worst offenders...

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Unfortunately Scotty has a habit of tarring everything with an engine with the same brush (if not I'll deck him )

I think this constitutes a bit of mud slinging...... well if a bit of the mud I've thrown sticks, perhaps then a few of your mobo associates who get up to mischief, could be policed by yourselves.

I would hazard a guess that the large majority of raggies have an RYA qualification whereby some of the areas of regard for oneanother on the water, are discussed to try and give everyone a safe and pleasant environment.
Serious question....
Would you say that the large majority of mobos have a basic training?
With the huge amount of power they often have and the potential to do enormous damage it's amazing that it's not law to do so. Perhaps your insurance companies insist on it?
Nevertheless, as an ex motocrosser, a builder/owner of a kitcar with a V8, I'm no stick in the mud as far as engines and thrills go so go stick your brush where the sun.....
I just don't go out of my way to be a nuisance as a minority of boaters seem to...... the majority of those seemingly mobos of one sort or another.

 

[CHI]

I think this constitutes a bit of mud slinging...... well if a bit of the mud I've thrown sticks, perhaps then a few of your mobo associates who get up to mischief, could be policed by yourselves.

I would hazard a guess that the large majority of raggies have an RYA qualification whereby some of the areas of regard for oneanother on the water, are discussed to try and give everyone a safe and pleasant environment.
Serious question....
Would you say that the large majority of mobos have a basic training?
With the huge amount of power they often have and the potential to do enormous damage it's amazing that it's not law to do so. Perhaps your insurance companies insist on it?
Nevertheless, as an ex motocrosser, a builder/owner of a kitcar with a V8, I'm no stick in the mud as far as engines and thrills go so go stick your brush where the sun.....
I just don't go out of my way to be a nuisance as a minority of boaters seem to...... the majority of those seemingly mobos of one sort or another.

Scotty twister you need to calm down.

This last post of yours is exactly the type of attitude that causes bad feelings between all user of the water. We need to all enjoy our leisure activities and get on well together.

 

[trapezeartist]

Sailing a very tippy skiff, my worst experience of a close encounter with a wavemaker comes from a rather unlikely source: the local lifeboat! Not RNLI, I should add, but the Spanish Salvamiento.

 

[neale]

Serious question....
Would you say that the large majority of mobos have a basic training?

In my opinion the answer to that is YES. Most MoBo owners will have undertaken some training. Maybe PB2 or an ICC. Many will have DS, CS or YM.

Some, like me, will have all the above plus some RYA quals in sailing, so please don't make generalisations.

 

[CHI]

In my opinion the answer to that is YES. Most MoBo owners will have undertaken some training. Maybe PB2 or an ICC. Many will have DS, CS or YM.

Some, like me, will have all the above plus some RYA quals in sailing, so please don't make generalisations.

Well said Neale.

 

[Mr.Completely]

Scotty

Actually I think scotty has a a point, being a mobo and instructor I have seen many people with no qualifications, some to the point they felt they had a small boat and felt they could go anywhere with no concept of tides what so ever.
In regards to your insurance point, more and more insurance companies are demanding a basic RYA qualification which I believe will help as it does give beginners a slightly more advanced awareness than the obvious and thus they learn the basic safety and courtesy issues.
You do always get some people though who don't care or bother. And I nicely pointed out a 5 knot speed limit to some idiots recently as they were doing about 9/10 (by far the wot speed for a hull that planes) and was greeted with a 2 fingered salute.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

In my opinion the answer to that is YES. Most MoBo owners will have undertaken some training. Maybe PB2 or an ICC. Many will have DS, CS or YM.

Some, like me, will have all the above plus some RYA quals in sailing, so please don't make generalisations.

No generalisation made but a genuine question, but thankyou for your input and your points are noted.

I wonder why many mobos don't do as they are taught on the courses then?

 

[CHI]

No generalisation made but a genuine question, but thankyou for your input and your points are noted.

I wonder why many mobos don't do as they are taught on the courses then?

Another generalisation.

In the many years i have been on the water i have found that most of Mobos, and Raggies
are well behaved !!

 

[colingr]

No generalisation made but a genuine question, but thankyou for your input and your points are noted.

I wonder why many mobos don't do as they are taught on the courses then?

Sigh.

Has anyone noticed that the sun is shining, the forecast is good for the weekend (for us mobos anyway, not enough wind for raggies so I suppose they'll all turn into mobos).

I've just been paid, the boat is in top notch order and I have no commitments to worry about.

See you all out in the Solent

I'll try not to look too happy, and I'll try to wave to you all. If I don't it will be because I'm going too fast. Don't take it personally.

 

[andygc]

Over from the raggie side to see what this is all about.

My boat lives on a swinging mooring in the Exe. Most of the mobos go past at a reasonable speed. When we're on the move and they're on the move, we wave. Occasionally we get somebody who doesn't realise that RIBS and some other planing hulls kick up a lot of wash if they go through the moorings at 5-6 kts. Those who slow down more get a wave. Most respond to a call of "please slow down", and get a thank you. If I get a chance to speak to the ones who don't, I just politely point out the problems for people rowing dinghies and boats on moorings.

However, there is that bastrad in 40 odd feet of plastic with funny shaped windows and a choice of steering positions who thinks it great fun to whizz gaily past within 20 feet of a small yacht in light winds when he could use the rest of Lyme Bay to produce white plumes. I don't assume that all mobos are driven by spelling mistakes, but a few are.

In the river the Stuart Line cruisers cause more problems than the great majority of recreational mobo'ers

 

[colingr]

Just an innocent question. These rants are aimed at mobo drivers. The times that give me most grief are when the red jet's go blasting past. They make no attempt to slow down when the hit the 6 knot limit up Southampton Water so why don't they get prosecuted.

Their wake if far worse than any mobo that I've seen.

And I've never seen a raggie rant about them, why?

 

[aslabend]

Just an innocent question. These rants are aimed at mobo drivers. The times that give me most grief are when the red jet's go blasting past. They make no attempt to slow down when the hit the 6 knot limit up Southampton Water so why don't they get prosecuted.

Their wake if far worse than any mobo that I've seen.

And I've never seen a raggie rant about them, why?

Us wafi's don't mind a bit of wash when the canvas is up, it's when we're sitting on a mooring/at anchor/berthed up, having a cuppa or a kip and your world is suddenly thrown about by the wash of a passing mobo/jetski/police launch that we get a bit arsey. I moore up Fareham reach and regularly get knocked about by wakes from inconsiderate water users.

The red jets make a wash but with sails up a yacht just powers through, at anchor it's like being in a washing machine.

fyi I usually wave to mobo's as we're all out for the same reason but not if you're being inconsiderate, I'll just give you a good tutting....... http://www.ybw.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

 

[Sans Bateau]

Of course you are all wasting your time debating this subject of wash on this forum, or any other forum. When a power boat creates an unsociable wash, be it up a river disturbing moored boats or through an anchorage, its all boats, power, sail and others that get thrown about. Just see how a mobo without the benefit of a heavy keel leaps around on the wake created by an antisocial selfish git.

Just about every power boat owner I know will show consideration to others, as will most boat owners on these forums, I suspect. I would hazard a guess that if you were to ask any offending power boat owner, you will find that they do not engage in any kind of cross discipline conversation as you will find on YBW.

Or am I trying to spoil a good rant?

 

[colingr]

Or am I trying to spoil a good rant?

Probly

 

[SimbaDog]

Last Sunday, had gone out of Plymouth Sound under sail through Western entrance, about a mile out & large 50' ish powerboat doing perhaps 30knots slowed right down to pass me and he gave me a wave
So you're not all bad

 

[Refueler]

you've got gimbals mobos haven't!

Gimbals in fact can fail in that cooker swings under it and wash making boat dance rather than swing back .... bingo ! Momentum and all that ...

I have to admit that even I as a raggie have been shouted at by HM or boater ... displacement hull at slow speed can be just as bad ..

But generally displacement hull people and I do not mean only raggies are considerate of others, it's idiots like the photo above who only see having fun with throttle wide open ... that's fine - but choose sensible place to do it ...

I've been sitting on beach in past ... stupid speedboat or Jet ski making wash has screamed along ... not realising that Mum with toddler in water has just been swamped ... It's not only consideration of other people on water - but also the effects of wash to others such as close to beaches etc.

 

[bbg]

Don't know what all the fuss is about. Frankly, based on the moboers I've met, I think they should be ENCOURAGED to wash a bit more.