Planing vs SD: Analysis, with pictures

[steverow]

It's in the keel...that's the secret, coupled with the fact that aft end flattens out much more than the squaddie.
As on any boat, the deeper the keel the greater the lateral stability.
Look also at the hull section midships. The section here is nowhere near a deep vee.

Steve.

 

[duncan]

Re: Planing vs SD: Analysis, with pictures

might need more than a cup of tea - keeping up with these threads meant I forgot a certain day (until it was too late.... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif)
have implemented crisis plan A......

 

[hlb]

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Ok Gluddy. I have on many occasions, many others too. Have seen this forum becoming dull. I and others have worked our balls off to get it back on track. I've made loads of threads about. InPUT rather than folk wanting OUTPUT. You just simply want to be infuriating and finnish up with clap trap replies. Why oh why can you not just go some where interesting with yer boat. Dont care what sort it is. Big or small. Dont care whether you spent £0 or £100000000000 on it, and could care even less whether it's class ABCDEFGH or L. Just go some place and come back and tell us all the disasters, but some fun times as well! What ever this forum is about, it's not about windups. Happy1 discovered that. Now go off in yer little tug boat and enjoy yerself as we beseach them as trespasses against us, for ever and ever amen.

Oh and I've just read that the Dartmouth ferry. (Displacement) has come adrift from it's chains and needed rescueing. And no, I dont need an answer!!

 

[Wiggo]

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BTW, Duncan, ref your 2005 passage plan: what's the XTE at present?

 

[whisper]

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Wasn't aware that I had - I just quoted from annex ii of the RCD. ???

I blame Google, the helmsman. Presumably the Directive has been amended. I'm wrong and you are right - with regard to this small point anyway - bugger /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Gludy]

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But lets face it, its only a rough guide EU directive and I would not trust that lot as far as I can throw them!!

 

[Wiggo]

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Ah, but you seem to trust it as the absolute guide to seaworthiness when it suits, Paul.

 

[Gludy]

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No Wiggo, I was using a scoring tactic much as you do in a debate in a pub because the du=iscussion had developed into an us and them type of things. I have tried to calm things down a bit after the laugh and have started a thread that is actually trying to discuss boat stability.

So when asked to summarise what I thought, I gave an honest answer without the point scoring which still, it seems. leaves you point scoring.....

 

[Gludy]

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Haydn
I have just read that post again and find your attitude amazingly arrogant . it also carries with it a sort of implied threat (the Happy1 bit) and seems to place you as some sort of forum master mind. You set yourself up to speak on behalf of the forum.... on what basis I do not know.

Could I, with respect suggest to you that there are all types on this forum and you are not required to read my threads. You took part in this one but refused to respond properly after you made that silly statement about lifeboats only venturing out into calmer waters leaving the inshore rough water to the ribs.

I did choose to provoke a discussion yes ,, but take a look at what I wrote, it was 100% simple and technical .... not personally attacking anyone. look at the first personal attacking responses... all directed at me because I would not just blindly accept what I was being told without evidence.

All we are discussing here is boat hulls .. its hardly the sort of stuff that should get anyone upset. If it does then I suggest they look inside themselves because they have a problem.

"I and others have worked our balls off to get it back on track"

You were not very successful then where you? What is this working your balls off? Do you not think that is a bit over the top?
What does the work consist of?
What good posts did you initiate that brought in anything like the volumes of the last week?
Does this claimed incredible work give you some right of forum ownership?

This forum is about sharing ideas, challenging idea and doing it all openly. It is not in the ownership of any little clique.

So before you set yourself up on that throne to speak in such a manner on behalf of the forum ...... just remember, you do not own it and I strongly resent you Happy1 type threat.

Now what do you plan to do run along to Kim to get rid of me?

 

[whisper]

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Gludy, I suspect/hope that Haydn doesn't bother to reply to your last missive. Actually I believe he was speaking for a large number of us on here.
I can't see where the "threat" came in. His referral to Happy 1 was by way of comparison in that he also wound people up, though in his case I felt that it was unintentional, in your case I'm not so sure /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif.
His threads also went on ad nauseum because for every answer that was required one got another question, and even that had no single correct answer. Thus one went round and round in circles until exasperation set in.
If there was an IPC prize for the biggest wind-up merchant then you would win by a mile. Please learn when to stop, because your topics normally start off as being quite interesting and even valuable, but after a while you (Mainly)make them become soooo boooring.
Sorry if this is taken as a personal attack. It's not meant to be that, it is meant to be a humble request.
John.

 

[Gludy]

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I am sorry whipser, and I take your post as attempting to be helpful but I cannot accept what you say.

His post was very clear.

Frankly, we were discussing boats, hulls etc not world shattering events.

If you look at the start of the thread you will see clear point snad I always strive to answer as openly as possible. Very quickly they turn personal.

I am fairly happy if Kim wants to chuck me of the forum .. I would accept it and he would have to accept a forum that is frankly dying.

References were made by Haydn to all sorts of things like working his balls off in some sort of great martydom but where does this work happen, I cannot see it.

If he insists on responding with points like the lifeboat thing then what does he expect.

I see nothing wrong with debate and there is nowt wrong with taking part or not taking part.

There is a thread now taking the mickey out of me and my style, yet I take no offence whatsover to it - it made me laugh and I posted a post saying it was enertaining and amusing, so I am more than willing to laugh at myself and history shows that.

What I am not willing to accept is that rubbish that Haydn hands down in some sort of judgement. He is not the forum and has no right to speak on behalf of it.

I had a fierce debate with Barry but it was very much like a good debate in a pub and I think was taken as no more than that by both sides.

So if Haydn wants to post posts like the one this is referring to he should be prepared to defend them or desist from posting them.

I can have a laugh along with the next chap, I can laugh ta me and have joined in posts before that took the mickey out of me but I can also take care of myself and frankly Haydn's post was offensive..