hlb
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
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Pix of rafting in harbours
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SeaDave
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
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fireball
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
open another bottle and wait!
open another bottle and wait!
Geoffs
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
It's usually all pretty laid back
Usually, prob night before, you'll all have a chat and see who wants to leave when, and work it out from there.
It's usually all pretty laid back
Usually, prob night before, you'll all have a chat and see who wants to leave when, and work it out from there.
Sundays_Child
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To add to the diversity, here are some rafting pictures in Hong Kong:
hlb
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
I was once in some fishing harbour, Probably Ireland, cant remember. Anyway we rafted up to some fishing boats. Next morning it was Sunday and there were another four fishing boats tied alongside us.
Being a Sunday, there was no one else there to help. Cant remember the details. But I finished up using the boat as a tug, to push all the fishing boats back together.
Another time at the Pandora inn Falmouth. I simply unattached us all, turned them all round, so I finnished up on the outside.
I was once in some fishing harbour, Probably Ireland, cant remember. Anyway we rafted up to some fishing boats. Next morning it was Sunday and there were another four fishing boats tied alongside us.
Being a Sunday, there was no one else there to help. Cant remember the details. But I finished up using the boat as a tug, to push all the fishing boats back together.
Another time at the Pandora inn Falmouth. I simply unattached us all, turned them all round, so I finnished up on the outside.
l'escargot
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Tried to raft in Cowes but the raggies won't go againest mobos there...
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I don't think it is necessarily a Raggie/Mobo thing, more to do with the different shape of the boats.
You go across the bows of a sailing boat to avoid the cockpit, to then try and climb and cross the bow of a motorboat usually involves a climb which is not always easy because of the difference in freeboard.
Likewise it would be awkward to climb from the bathing platform of a mobo and not go across the cockpit of sailing boat.
Life is easier if boats rafting together are of generally similar designs (and size).
Tried to raft in Cowes but the raggies won't go againest mobos there...
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I don't think it is necessarily a Raggie/Mobo thing, more to do with the different shape of the boats.
You go across the bows of a sailing boat to avoid the cockpit, to then try and climb and cross the bow of a motorboat usually involves a climb which is not always easy because of the difference in freeboard.
Likewise it would be awkward to climb from the bathing platform of a mobo and not go across the cockpit of sailing boat.
Life is easier if boats rafting together are of generally similar designs (and size).
DAKA
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
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Being new to all this - how does it work if you're the inside boat and return to it (to leave) to discover that there's 3 or 4 others attached?
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I was first to get along side the pontoon in Boulonge one year as a storm moved in, the yachts soon followed and we had 19 boats outside us, for those that know the old harbour the boats stretched all the way across to the fishing boats.
We were looking for a weather window and talking in our cockpit over a beer or two
" we will just cast them off and leave when we want , just like the Dutch sailing boat did to us last week " /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
We were joking over a beer /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I had assumed as we were abroad our conversation was private.
Dutch yachtsman came to talk to me, I said
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we are going as soon as a weather window imerges, maybe five o'clock we need to be back at work tomorrow.'
2030 hrs we are dressed up for a good night out.
Dutchman says
You not go now ?
(it was raining for goodness sake)
No , I meant 0500 hrs in the morning /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OK he says we can go out now , I pass it on.
To our amazement 0445 hrs 1/2 raft had gone somewhere, and there was a sailor sat at the helm of all the boats left, as soon as we started the engines they all parted and we were away @ 0450.
The Germans were a real pain in not wanting to put shore lines on but the Dutch were great and incredibly helpful, or concerned I wanted revenge for the Dutch git that cast me off at 0530 after agreeing to 0600.
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Being new to all this - how does it work if you're the inside boat and return to it (to leave) to discover that there's 3 or 4 others attached?
[/ QUOTE ]
I was first to get along side the pontoon in Boulonge one year as a storm moved in, the yachts soon followed and we had 19 boats outside us, for those that know the old harbour the boats stretched all the way across to the fishing boats.
We were looking for a weather window and talking in our cockpit over a beer or two
" we will just cast them off and leave when we want , just like the Dutch sailing boat did to us last week " /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
We were joking over a beer /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I had assumed as we were abroad our conversation was private.
Dutch yachtsman came to talk to me, I said
'
we are going as soon as a weather window imerges, maybe five o'clock we need to be back at work tomorrow.'
2030 hrs we are dressed up for a good night out.
Dutchman says
You not go now ?
(it was raining for goodness sake)
No , I meant 0500 hrs in the morning /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OK he says we can go out now , I pass it on.
To our amazement 0445 hrs 1/2 raft had gone somewhere, and there was a sailor sat at the helm of all the boats left, as soon as we started the engines they all parted and we were away @ 0450.
The Germans were a real pain in not wanting to put shore lines on but the Dutch were great and incredibly helpful, or concerned I wanted revenge for the Dutch git that cast me off at 0530 after agreeing to 0600.
Chris_d
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Tried to raft in Cowes but the raggies won't go againest mobos there...
[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think it is necessarily a Raggie/Mobo thing, more to do with the different shape of the boats.
You go across the bows of a sailing boat to avoid the cockpit, to then try and climb and cross the bow of a motorboat usually involves a climb which is not always easy because of the difference in freeboard.
Likewise it would be awkward to climb from the bathing platform of a mobo and not go across the cockpit of sailing boat.
Life is easier if boats rafting together are of generally similar designs (and size).
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I don't think so, a flat sided mobo is easier to raft againest than another sailing boat, but anyway the berthing master at Shepards told us to move over on our own with the other "powerboat" because the yachts didn't like powerboats /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif . Have to say having come all the way round from the friendly Thames to the Solent I found the attitude of Solent yachties very depressing, although I can understand why having seen some of the behaviour thereabouts.
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Tried to raft in Cowes but the raggies won't go againest mobos there...
[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think it is necessarily a Raggie/Mobo thing, more to do with the different shape of the boats.
You go across the bows of a sailing boat to avoid the cockpit, to then try and climb and cross the bow of a motorboat usually involves a climb which is not always easy because of the difference in freeboard.
Likewise it would be awkward to climb from the bathing platform of a mobo and not go across the cockpit of sailing boat.
Life is easier if boats rafting together are of generally similar designs (and size).
[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think so, a flat sided mobo is easier to raft againest than another sailing boat, but anyway the berthing master at Shepards told us to move over on our own with the other "powerboat" because the yachts didn't like powerboats /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif . Have to say having come all the way round from the friendly Thames to the Solent I found the attitude of Solent yachties very depressing, although I can understand why having seen some of the behaviour thereabouts.
l'escargot
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I don't think so, a flat sided mobo is easier to raft againest than another sailing boat...
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No, you miss the point.
It is not the boat against boat, it is the relative height - how many mobo crew do you see getting off onto the pontoon from the bow or midships? My deck midships to bow is 2 or 3 feet below yours and not only does your hull angle out but so does your safety rail, they are not easy to negotiate - there aren't even any shrouds to pull yourself up on. Even if there were friends in mobos around, I would raft against a stranger in another sailing boat instead because it makes life easier.
Some of the older inland mobos might be different but many of the modern high volume coastal mobos don't even have a side deck, the coach roof goes all the way to the sides and they are almost impossible to climb up on. Try it sometime.
I don't think so, a flat sided mobo is easier to raft againest than another sailing boat...
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No, you miss the point.
It is not the boat against boat, it is the relative height - how many mobo crew do you see getting off onto the pontoon from the bow or midships? My deck midships to bow is 2 or 3 feet below yours and not only does your hull angle out but so does your safety rail, they are not easy to negotiate - there aren't even any shrouds to pull yourself up on. Even if there were friends in mobos around, I would raft against a stranger in another sailing boat instead because it makes life easier.
Some of the older inland mobos might be different but many of the modern high volume coastal mobos don't even have a side deck, the coach roof goes all the way to the sides and they are almost impossible to climb up on. Try it sometime.
hlb
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Well they dont seem to have any problem rafting against me. Infact I some times wonder if I'm just a usefull pontoon. They all normally troup round the front then to the back and get off normaly.
l'escargot
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Have a look at the relative difference in height to the pontoon here:
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Well they dont seem to have any problem rafting against me. Infact I some times wonder if I'm just a usefull pontoon. They all normally troup round the front then to the back and get off normaly.
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Perhaps they are more agile than me - don't weigh 17 stone and don't have a couple of dogs under one arm and a case of beer or wine under the other. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Well they dont seem to have any problem rafting against me. Infact I some times wonder if I'm just a usefull pontoon. They all normally troup round the front then to the back and get off normaly.
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Perhaps they are more agile than me - don't weigh 17 stone and don't have a couple of dogs under one arm and a case of beer or wine under the other. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Andrew_Fanner
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If any outside me have children or look anything less than athletic I always invite them to pass through the cockpit if the canopy is open. Made many friends that way, and shared a lot of bottles.
No Regrets
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Re: Is this the kind of thing you looking for, it is about 8 deep
Makes sense! S'posed to be sociable lot aren't we?
Makes sense! S'posed to be sociable lot aren't we?
Sundays_Child
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Here is some HK rafting in 1976!
Victoria Harbour (Causeway Bay)
Aberdeen (1973)
Victoria Harbour (Causeway Bay)
Aberdeen (1973)
Hurricane
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And here is he Wokingham group in Wokingham
ccscott49
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In Holland they raft all the time, no room you see.
Peeps is alway welcome to raft against me, if theres no room, but please put land lines out, I dont want anymore cleats torn out of my deck! Like I had when 10 boats rafted outside me and PulineB in Cala Ratjada. Bloody German charter boats.
No land lines!! I was tied to the quay, destroyed two fenders also.
One story, was tied up to Poole town quay, (some time ago) a big (40' plus) mobo came along asked to raft outside me, the quay was empty!! I was the only boat there. I asked if my boat looked like a pontoon, he replied "she's a big heavy classic boat, save us from being bashed against the quay" I told him he'd best go away before I poked him with a boathook! Pillock.
Peeps is alway welcome to raft against me, if theres no room, but please put land lines out, I dont want anymore cleats torn out of my deck! Like I had when 10 boats rafted outside me and PulineB in Cala Ratjada. Bloody German charter boats.
No land lines!! I was tied to the quay, destroyed two fenders also.
One story, was tied up to Poole town quay, (some time ago) a big (40' plus) mobo came along asked to raft outside me, the quay was empty!! I was the only boat there. I asked if my boat looked like a pontoon, he replied "she's a big heavy classic boat, save us from being bashed against the quay" I told him he'd best go away before I poked him with a boathook! Pillock.
AndieMac
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C_Playa......... I think you win the max. rafting pic competition.
What sort of fenders do they use??????????? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
What sort of fenders do they use??????????? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
ADLS
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Victoria Harbour.
Was there a typhoo warning up???????????
Was there a typhoo warning up???????????
Sundays_Child
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Those pictures weren't taken by me... I didn't arrive in HK until 1988.
Pictures came from here:
http://www.geocities.com/kp_diver/index111ChineseJunks.html
A great many fabulous photographs of the South China coast and its vessels in the 1970's.
Doubt there was a typhoon coming, that's just the way things were... There are still a few people living like that, but that way of life will die with them.
Pictures came from here:
http://www.geocities.com/kp_diver/index111ChineseJunks.html
A great many fabulous photographs of the South China coast and its vessels in the 1970's.
Doubt there was a typhoon coming, that's just the way things were... There are still a few people living like that, but that way of life will die with them.