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I was in a very busy Priory Bay yesterday for the day and other than the yachties, it must have been 90% petrol o/b.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I took my friend out again on Monday. He is a speedy fan, cars and bikes.

So we are now looking for something similar to the AMT 200 I use. 150hp outboard. Regular day tripper for just a few hours and anchoring off a local beach for a swim. Fun boat!
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I took my friend out again on Monday. He is a speedy fan, cars and bikes.

So we are now looking for something similar to the AMT 200 I use. 150hp outboard. Regular day tripper for just a few hours and anchoring off a local beach for a swim. Fun boat!
Did your friend buy a boat Capn?

I'm looking at an AMT 200 DC with 150 Vtec.

Looks a nice well made boat.
 

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Did your friend buy a boat Capn?

I'm looking at an AMT 200 DC with 150 Vtec.

Looks a nice well made boat.
I had a Honda 150 VTEC.....two in fact, the first was stolen and replaced by my insurance company.....absolutely wonderful engines...smooth and ever so reliable
 

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I had a Honda 150 VTEC.....two in fact, the first was stolen and replaced by my insurance company.....absolutely wonderful engines...smooth and ever so reliable

I bought a new bf135 which is non Vtec.

Hewn out of granite!

I looked at a Finnmaster 6100 which had a 135 on. No evidence of any servicing between 2009 and 2022.

Also a stern thruster had been bolted to the ventilation plate.

Not for me, I'm buying an engine with a boat attached!
 

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Hiya. No, he figured the use he would get wasn't worth it. But I take the AMT out at least once a week and it's a great boat for having an hour or two slipping along in sheltered waters.

How would it handle the Solent chop if it were there?

Any other pointers please? I like the overall look, it seems well made and reminds me of the Fletcher 19 GTO sports cruiser I had - albeit 1ft longer...
 

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When it comes to petrol boats, the biggest issue is availability. If you have quayside petrol in your chosen cruising area, then fine. Try cruising in a petrol boat is some less popular areas and you are into carrying 20 litre jerry cans and that is a huge pain in the backside (and the lower back). I have been there, and done that.

The next issue is cost. Quayside petrol is expensive, and petrol boats use a lot of fuel. A single petrol engine up to around 200hp is just about OK to feed. Above this, and particularly twins, and the only thing emptying faster than your fuel tank will be your bank account. Just look at the fuel burn on twin 300hp outboards!

Lastly the safety issues. These are easily managed with good maintenance, common sense and sensible precautions.
 

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When it comes to petrol boats, the biggest issue is availability. If you have quayside petrol in your chosen cruising area, then fine. Try cruising in a petrol boat is some less popular areas and you are into carrying 20 litre jerry cans and that is a huge pain in the backside (and the lower back). I have been there, and done that.

The next issue is cost. Quayside petrol is expensive, and petrol boats use a lot of fuel. A single petrol engine up to around 200hp is just about OK to feed. Above this, and particularly twins, and the only thing emptying faster than your fuel tank will be your bank account. Just look at the fuel burn on twin 300hp outboards!

Lastly the safety issues. These are easily managed with good maintenance, common sense and sensible precautions.
Thats a fairly UK centric view of petrol , and is valid/correct for the uk, but if you're in the med then petrol is available in any marina and is cheaper (per litre) than diesel sold in the marina.
 

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Thats a fairly UK centric view of petrol , and is valid/correct for the uk, but if you're in the med then petrol is available in any marina and is cheaper (per litre) than diesel sold in the marina.
But the amount of people who fill with jerrycans (and spill fuel in the water) in Med is really bad...and it’s to save a few pennies with supermarket filling stations.....or people with businesses who can get tax free fuel...and siphon enough off to fill their boat (at substantial savings)
 

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But the amount of people who fill with jerrycans (and spill fuel in the water) in Med is really bad...and it’s to save a few pennies with supermarket filling stations.....or people with businesses who can get tax free fuel...and siphon enough off to fill their boat (at substantial savings)
Ive never seen anyone fill with jerry cans in majorca.... must be a french thing! I think the price difference between supermarket petrol and marina petrol is a few cents per litre , hardly worth the effort in my opinion.
 

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Thats a fairly UK centric view of petrol , and is valid/correct for the uk, but if you're in the med then petrol is available in any marina and is cheaper (per litre) than diesel sold in the marina.
Fair comment, but as a UK website with a majority of UK based boaters, I think its not an unjust view to take.
 

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Ive never seen anyone fill with jerry cans in majorca.... must be a french thing! I think the price difference between supermarket petrol and marina petrol is a few cents per litre , hardly worth the effort in my opinion.
I think it is a French thing. Or at least was.

In one marina I was in, there was 40c/liter difference for diesel. A lot of people filled up with jerry cans. And a fair bit was spilt.
In the end, the marina sorted out the fuel station contract and the different was reduced to 3-4c which is OK.
 

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How would it handle the Solent chop if it were there?

Any other pointers please? I like the overall look, it seems well made and reminds me of the Fletcher 19 GTO sports cruiser I had - albeit 1ft longer...
Hiya. I took 3 adults and a ten year old out for a spin this morning. I would see any problems with the Solent chop....I used to sail there a lot. Its not dissimilar here in the Bocaina Straits between Lanzarote and fuertaventura. The 150 hp means you can plane over it if you wish although generally with inexperienced people I take out I just throttle back to 7 or 8 knots and put the bow at 30 ish degrees to the waves. Plus it stops Mrs Sensible complaining she's getting splashed. Well until she gets on the helm.....

The chunkiness of the boat makes it very stable but can still plane at 26 knots. At harbour speed though you have to work the wheel as the donk is quite heavy. We have a tight berth and you really have to steer right in then spin the wheel amidships quite smartly to give some astern brakes.

Generally, though, a delight to handle and I'm very lucky that the owner let's me use it whenever....I taught him to drive it!

Dunno if it's standard but there is a fold away bimini top too, plus he has a robust trailer that came with it.

I'm out again tomorrow so will take some pictures. If I don't for some reason with my guests, I'll be nipping down sometime over the weekend to give the cockpit a good scrub so will take some then.
 

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Hiya. I took 3 adults and a ten year old out for a spin this morning. I would see any problems with the Solent chop....I used to sail there a lot. Its not dissimilar here in the Bocaina Straits between Lanzarote and fuertaventura. The 150 hp means you can plane over it if you wish although generally with inexperienced people I take out I just throttle back to 7 or 8 knots and put the bow at 30 ish degrees to the waves. Plus it stops Mrs Sensible complaining she's getting splashed. Well until she gets on the helm.....

The chunkiness of the boat makes it very stable but can still plane at 26 knots. At harbour speed though you have to work the wheel as the donk is quite heavy. We have a tight berth and you really have to steer right in then spin the wheel amidships quite smartly to give some astern brakes.

Generally, though, a delight to handle and I'm very lucky that the owner let's me use it whenever....I taught him to drive it!

Dunno if it's standard but there is a fold away bimini top too, plus he has a robust trailer that came with it.

I'm out again tomorrow so will take some pictures. If I don't for some reason with my guests, I'll be nipping down sometime over the weekend to give the cockpit a good scrub so will take some then.

Fantastic thank you.

I had a cap camerat 625 WA with the 135 honda and it was a 35 knot boat.

The Vtec 150 should be better as up to 4500 revs it's much the same as the 135.

Go beyond that and and it goes very well!

The one I'm looking at has a pram hood that folds away under a cover at the back. I think it was standard fitment.
 

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Fantastic thank you.

I had a cap camerat 625 WA with the 135 honda and it was a 35 knot boat.

The Vtec 150 should be better as up to 4500 revs it's much the same as the 135.

Go beyond that and and it goes very well!

The one I'm looking at has a pram hood that folds away under a cover at the back. I think it was standard fitment.
Here's one I took last week on the fuel dock and a couple this morning. Let me know for anything close up, will be down at scrubbing stations on Sunday!

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Great thanks for the photos.

The front seating looks well tucked in - is it a dry ride on the whole please?

I'm hopefully having a sea trial on Sunday so will report back my findings (and if I have made an offer!).

I've just found a brochure with the 200 DC details, apparently, it's a 40 knot boat with the 150 VTEC!!
 

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Fantastic thank you.

I had a cap camerat 625 WA with the 135 honda and it was a 35 knot boat.

The Vtec 150 should be better as up to 4500 revs it's much the same as the 135.

Go beyond that and and it goes very well!

The one I'm looking at has a pram hood that folds away under a cover at the back. I think it was standard fitment.
Chap on our pontoon has just taken delivery of a 10.2 Cap Camarat with two V8, 350 hp outboard engines. They really are beautiful bits of kit, and good for 47 knots apparently.
 

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Great thanks for the photos.

The front seating looks well tucked in - is it a dry ride on the whole please?

I'm hopefully having a sea trial on Sunday so will report back my findings (and if I have made an offer!).

I've just found a brochure with the 200 DC details, apparently, it's a 40 knot boat with the 150 VTEC!!
Not to bad behind the windscreen but it can get a bit wet in the aft of the cockpit at speed.

Hope the sea trial goes well.....we bought back two more happy smiley faces today!!
 
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