Perkins Sabre M225TI please help

[Seastoke]

so same problem this is how it is, water has got in the oil , but there is no oil in the coolant side it looks more like sea water in the oil ,so the question where can sea water have access to the oil ,as the the coolant side cools the oil via cooler or in the head ,we are lost any help ,or sugestions welcome

 

[omega2]

When/if you run the engine with the filler cap off the header tank, do you see bubbles of air going across the opening when the engine has warmed up, or does the water gush out of the filler on startup? if so the head gasket has gone. or could be worse in that you have a cracked liner. Speaking from knowledge of Ford Sabre engines not up on those green monsters.

 

[volvopaul]

When/if you run the engine with the filler cap off the header tank, do you see bubbles of air going across the opening when the engine has warmed up, or does the water gush out of the filler on startup? if so the head gasket has gone. or could be worse in that you have a cracked liner. Speaking from knowledge of Ford Sabre engines not up on those green monsters.

You will see air circulation bubbles , you need to do a gas leakage test to see if you have combustion gasses in the coolant.

This block has dry liners pressed into the block, its only the old 4107 that had wet liners.

What's the issue with this engine as you have been posting for ages now with problems.

 

[volvopaul]

so same problem this is how it is, water has got in the oil , but there is no oil in the coolant side it looks more like sea water in the oil ,so the question where can sea water have access to the oil ,as the the coolant side cools the oil via cooler or in the head ,we are lost any help ,or sugestions welcome

Have you removed the circulation pump , its gear driven , when the shaft seal fails it leaks coolant into the sump.

 

[Seastoke]

Have you removed the circulation pump , its gear driven , when the shaft seal fails it leaks coolant into the sump.

Hi Paul it is on going we have taken head off and sent for refurb i.e. Pressure test new valves etc and a skim ,we have taken the oil cooler off and sent for a check ,but my guy thinks it's sea water not coolant that has got in ,so are you saying the sea water pump is shaft driven or the coolant pump thanks ,roy

 

[volvopaul]

Hi Paul it is on going we have taken head off and sent for refurb i.e. Pressure test new valves etc and a skim ,we have taken the oil cooler off and sent for a check ,but my guy thinks it's sea water not coolant that has got in ,so are you saying the sea water pump is shaft driven or the coolant pump thanks ,roy

Coolant pump is shaft driven , do an oil sample

 

[Seastoke]

Coolant pump is shaft driven , do an oil sample

Oops flushed all the oil out and replaced it

 

[Seastoke]

Oops flushed all the oil out and replaced it

When we started checking before strip down the coolant level was low so maybe it is coolant , also the stud nuts holding the oil cooler on was very slack

 

[Seastoke]

Well after stripping down the heat exchanger there is oily sludge in the sea water side not the coolant side ,so we have water in the oil and oil in the sea water chambers Volvo Paul suggests the seal on the sea water pump seal has gone ,so water could get into the oil which is a great idea but does this mean that oil could leak into the sea water side and create this oily sludge I hope Paul reads this , but all comments welcome thanks ,roy

 

[omega2]

if the oil is getting into the sea water then is it showing in the exhaust? if not then as suggested the sea water is getting into the oil sump and climbing up the dip stick?, the seal on the sea water pump is allowing this.

 

[Seastoke]

Well after stripping down the heat exchanger there is oily sludge in the sea water side not the coolant side ,so we have water in the oil and oil in the sea water chambers Volvo Paul suggests the seal on the sea water pump seal has gone ,so water could get into the oil which is a great idea but does this mean that oil could leak into the sea water side and create this oily sludge I hope Paul reads this , but all comments welcome thanks ,roy

Well if you mean was the exhaust smoking yes whiteish

if the oil is getting into the sea water then is it showing in the exhaust? if not then as suggested the sea water is getting into the oil sump and climbing up the dip stick?, the seal on the sea water pump is allowing this.