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Well since everyone is sounding off I'll do mine, finally bolted the red dreads together over the weeken, started starboard, starts first time, now the timing is correct and starts to warm up. Dive down to engine bay from the flybridge and water everywhere. &^&^%&^%&^% !!!!!! Start the lick test to see if it's sea or fresh, mix of both &^%&%! Let it warm up and shut it down and carry on buggering about with the port. This includes drilling out a broken stud that someones broken off. Stud is so hard drill skates on it. Other hole filled with liquid metal and drilled and tapped when dry seems OK.
Start that today and it dumps it coolant into the bilge once the stat opens (^(*(&(&*!!!!
Start staboard and find no fresh leaks and only a small leak from the raw water filter and because it's running down the pipework onto the cam & fan belt its spraying everywhere, so today stripped and reasealed raw water swirl pot and invetigated port engine. Turns out the previous knuckle dragger where he'd stripped the thermostat housing bolts meant that I can't get bolts to start and the housings lifted dumping the fresh water. So I now have to clean out liquid metal and drill and tap that one to 8mm and find something (dynamite!) to get the hard stud out of the other hole.....

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I had the thermostat housing studs do that on mine, well one decided it would fracture, and I used a torque wrench on it set to what the blurb says. Anyway, if your lumps are the same as mine the threads in the head will be helicoiled. The stud that goes into the head for the housing will be an M6. Bit of a bugger really seeing as the next size readily available in an M8 and not enuff meat do drill and tap. So what I did was run round the local bolt and screw specialists and finally found a gut that does M7's. That got me outta that little prob

The cooling system leaks, well it a crappy set up to start with. I bet your getting raw water leaks on the strainer body and fresh leaks around the header tank/exchanger joint. Its a crap design. Best way I've found of curing the header/exchanger leak was to get rid of that stupind bit of pipe and go to the local plumbers merchant for a bit of copper in the old money metric size, about inch and a quater if I remember rightly. Next mount the two bits on the engine. Measure the gap between the flanges and the ad the two depths of the sockets. That'll gice you your length required.. Then take the pipe and solder 2 copper rings, that you alsso got from the plumbers, on the ends the width of the seal apart. Stretch the seals onto the pipe and then assemble with a bit of plumbers mait on the joint. It works for me!

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blimey guys ,you mean things go wrong? there goes my confidence,now not only do i have to find how to sail it it seems i need to know how to repair it! what have i done?

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Thanks Barry I thought you'd respond. The leak was on the riser pipe from the RW Pump to the strainer body. For some reason the body had cocked over and not sealed so have stripped and resealed it all.
Th bottom stat housing does seem to have enuf meat for an M8 as that was their when I stripped it, with SS bolt in a helicoil and no lube, hence seized solid. The upper one had a bolt in it which turned out to be glued in!. KD had broken the stud off virtually flush with the top. ANd normal drills didn't seem to make any impression. Will go down Tues. with big power drill and B & D Bullet or something equally hard. The other I'll drill and tap M8.
If that don't work the head'll have to come off and down eng. co.
Booked a lift out for this week so can service drives over Easter.
Good news is no leaks from adapted car water pumps.....
Ho Hum.....

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Dear Mr Peedoff.So sorry to hear of your grief.You obviously do not wish to hear of my trip out this morning up to to see my brother who is now moored at Cuxton marina..Flat calm,bright sunshine streaming through wheel house windows and nice cup of tea on go.So will not tell you about it./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Thats the one pipe I've not had leak yet.........oh crap what have I just said! Glad the water pumps have worked out OK, saves a bundle of dosh.

The stat housing, if it the same as mine it holds the header tank on! The stud I had go was into the head, right git of a thing to drill out, nearly gave up at one stage and thought of having it spark eroded. Any way, helicoils, yes, crappy things in ali, but there you go. I tend to put a smear of moly on mine before doing them upto torque. Not had one bugger up on me........yet, famous last words.

The drives will be fun. Stainless allen head bolts of a size unknown to man or beast, even the threads are a mix of imperial and metric. Have fun over easter, I'm off in the boat to see if my engine mods have been of use.

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Dear Smug Git,

you probably sailed past Gillingham at some point today. Whilst I was covered in Oil and antifreeze.........

I could be very rude but am too knackered I'll just go in the shower.

Mr. PeedOff aka

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Can I hitch-hike on this thread and ask where I can buy Helicoils? I drilled out my outdrive skeg for a new oversize oil drain plug and b*ggered up the tapping (it was my first ever attemp). Col suggested using a Helicoil.


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Our old mate Jones Industrial Fasteners, Think they do the kits or just the coils. I've got taps and dies if thats of any help to you.

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Thanks Barry.

I've got the taps and dies. In fact, I think that since meeting Happy1 in his previous incarnation, I've got this buying infliction for tools which I can't seem to shake off.

I'll give Jones's a call tomorrow.

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I've always used <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.namrick.co.uk/>http://www.namrick.co.uk/</A> for this sort of stuff, in fact just ordered taps and dies from them.
But they do Helicoil kits and a good range of fastners as well.

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Thanks jim,

That site may be handy for my car as well. If I can't find one tomorrow, I'll order from them. Is there any knack in fitting them? I thought that tapping the hole would be easy /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif.

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<font color=blue>You are peed off. What about me. Spent the afternoon shuttling boats about ending up with Andy on his mooring with no way to get back to my mooring. So we hailed a passing boat... bluddy Pheran was on board as crew, thats all I needed after a hard days juggling.

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Having read this incredibly depressing thread, I have to say it reminds me of my first proper boat, except it wasn't. It was a 16ft scorpio bought from the ar**hole who owned the boat repair place at Gillingham pier back in the eighties. "Only needs putting back together" he said. Stripped threads, corroded and ancient outdrive leg with raw water pump that could not have worked in years and bevel gears that were totally f****ed, not to mention all the missing bits. Boy was I taken for a ride. Well, I hope he's still in business, for the next five minutes at least. Twenty years has taught me a lot. Unfortunately it has not removed the rose coloured specs when it comes to boats. No matter how awful it gets I still keep coming back for more. Can anyone reccomend a good therapist?

Bill.

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