Patriotic Yacht

[CAPTAIN FANTASTIC]

Would you consider having a flag as a sail?. Is this patriotic or over the top and divisive?

 

[E39mad]

That's a large ensign

 

[Blueboatman]

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Would you consider having a flag as a sail?. Is this patriotic or over the top and decisive?

Yer but they’s awful fussy about taking them down at sunset.
And folding it in a particular way
Could be a bit limiting ?

 

[dunedin]

Would you consider having a flag as a sail?. Is this patriotic or over the top and decisive?

Americans are often “world class“ at all of these - overt “patriotism“, and being “over the top” and “devisive“ (probably decisive as well)

 

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

I may well accused of prejudice, but I think it might be easy to take a guess at that owner's views on gun ownership, immigration, etc.

 

[newtothis]

Yer but they’s awful fussy about taking them down at sunset.
And folding it in a particular way
Could be a bit limiting ?

Right, and a Union Jack* sail in the UK wouldn't have the yacht club admirals frothing at the mouths?
I'm sure there's some obscure rule about having two ensigns flying at the same time.

* Said in the full knowledge that someone will jump in and say it's not called that within about three seconds of posting this. QED.

 

[capnsensible]

Can someone explain to me why this is a problem? I don't get how some posters are.....concerned?

 

[Bouba]

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Would you consider having a flag as a sail?. Is this patriotic or over the top and decisive?

Looks good...really good ?

 

[Bajansailor]

That is a very nice wee wooden catboat, reefed appropriately, and stomping along very happily.
Looks like she can also set a jib on the bowsprit?
Do you know where this photo was taken, as in which lighthouse is in the background?

 

[The Q]

At the moment in the UK a flag sail would be a problem..
It wouldn't get you far at half mast...

Mind you the odd gust today was forecast to be 50mph..

I remember reading of someone who ordered a spinnaker and said to the sailmaker any colours.. it arrived in Northern Ireland in green white and orange at the height of the troubles... It had to be sent back for a panel colour change so it didn't favour either side.

 

[DownWest]

It is called 'Tigress' and sails on charters out of Martha's Vinyard.

 

[CAPTAIN FANTASTIC]

I may well accused of prejudice, but I think it might be easy to take a guess at that owner's views on gun ownership, immigration, etc.

Nice boat and even better background but the sails can be seen as a divisive symbol

 

[Biggles Wader]

Good to see they are flying their main at half mast.

 

[Bouba]

Nice boat and even better background but the sails can be seen as a divisive symbol

Absolutely agree....sails are very divisive

 

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

Right, and a Union Jack* sail in the UK wouldn't have the yacht club admirals frothing at the mouths?
I'm sure there's some obscure rule about having two ensigns flying at the same time.

* Said in the full knowledge that someone will jump in and say it's not called that within about three seconds of posting this. QED.

* No, it it could legitimately be considered a jack, as it is attached to a stick right in the bow of the boat.

 

[ProDave]

Most Brit's would probably have the Union Flag sail upside down through ignorance.

That Stars and stripes one is at a funny angle.

 

[capnsensible]

Most Brit's would probably have the Union Flag sail upside down through ignorance.

How do you know that? Amazing.

 

[johnalison]

I think that national attitudes towards their flag differ a lot and it may be that projecting our own thoughts onto this picture may be misleading. In my youth the Union Jack was much respected following its use as a national symbol in the war but when Carnaby Street started making boxer shorts out of the flag and it was used for whatever people wished its use as a national symbol became embarrassing. This got worse after the National Front adopted it and it is only in recent years that we have recovered general respect for the flag. I don’t think the Americans went through quite the same process and perhaps their more personal relationship allows them to use it for things such as sails. I am pleased that both countries are sufficiently tolerant to accept such examples of lese majeste without clapping people into jail or worse.

 

[DownWest]

I think that national attitudes towards their flag differ a lot and it may be that projecting our own thoughts onto this picture may be misleading. In my youth the Union Jack was much respected following its use as a national symbol in the war but when Carnaby Street started making boxer shorts out of the flag and it was used for whatever people wished its use as a national symbol became embarrassing. This got worse after the National Front adopted it and it is only in recent years that we have recovered general respect for the flag. I don’t think the Americans went through quite the same process and perhaps their more personal relationship allows them to use it for things such as sails. I am pleased that both countries are sufficiently tolerant to accept such examples of lese majeste without clapping people into jail or worse.

Yep, over there it is quite different. It was perfectly natural for the flag to hoisted at dawn (err, maybe a bit later ) and lowered at dusk at our summer place on the Chesapeake and many houses did so. OK, my lot had military past military members, but they were nothing like the image of flag toting 'mericuns.

 

[Stemar]

In the US, I'd think it was a daft bit of fun - totally OTT, but not seriously divisive until they put up the MAGA ensign. Do the same thing here, the union flag has, unfortunately, been misappropriated by a fairly small, frequently zenophobic minority, so I think it would be unacceptable.

Just one question - AIUI, it's illegal to destroy a US flag; how are they going to dispose of the old one when they need new sails?