PassageWeather

[franksingleton]

PassadeWeather now includes ECMWF. The presentation is, arguably, the clearest browser display of GRIB data.

 

[Caladh]

PassadeWeather now includes ECMWF. The presentation is, arguably, the clearest browser display of GRIB data.

Been using Passage Weather for many years.

 

[johnalison]

I have used Passageweather for many years now. As you say, the presentation is clear. A tabular form of presentation is OK for local trips but for something like a North Sea crossing I much prefer charts. It can be blowing SW in the Harwich area but from PW I can see that it will be changing to NE by the time I get to Ijmuiden, and the uncluttered charts make planning easy.

 

[franksingleton]

Been using Passage Weather for many years.

The addition of ECMWF. is new, only announced by bill Reilly today.

 

[Bouba]

I use WindyPRO....I think it’s always had ECMWF.....not that I have a clue what it means

 

[franksingleton]

I have used Passageweather for many years now. As you say, the presentation is clear. A tabular form of presentation is OK for local trips but for something like a North Sea crossing I much prefer charts. It can be blowing SW in the Harwich area but from PW I can see that it will be changing to NE by the time I get to Ijmuiden, and the uncluttered charts make planning easy.

Of course, the forecasts cannot be better than any other GTIB product. I do not use PW myself but recognise that it is the first choice for many because of its clarity.

 

[capnsensible]

I use WindyPRO....I think it’s always had ECMWF.....not that I have a clue what it means

Motorboater.

 

[Bouba]

Motorboater.

Isn’t it enough just to look at their forecast....when did it become necessary to peer review it

 

[capnsensible]

Isn’t it enough just to look at their forecast....when did it become necessary to peer review it

These days, it seems, everyone knows more than the experts. That's people who spend all their working lives doing something that someone who as an argumentative gene will know better after 5 seconds on the internet.

 

[Bouba]

These days, it seems, everyone knows more than the experts. That's people who spend all their working lives doing something that someone who as an argumentative gene will know better after 5 seconds on the internet.

Unfortunately I was born with the argumentative gene.... and I was an expert on everything long before the internet...it has got me into trouble down the years...but it’s never stopped me. Apparently, however, I’m not alone

 

[Baggywrinkle]

These days, it seems, everyone knows more than the experts. That's people who spend all their working lives doing something that someone who as an argumentative gene will know better after 5 seconds on the internet.

Fuelled by the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias[2] in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. Some researchers also include the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills.

 

[Bouba]

Fuelled by the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

There has to be name for those of us who are high functioning but will still over estimate their capabilities

 

[capnsensible]

There has to be name for those of us who are high functioning but will still over estimate their capabilities

Rhymes with anchor.

 

[Bouba]

Rhymes with anchor.

I was thinking of ‘Genius Syndrome’

 

[capnsensible]

Joke, not an insult!!!!!!!

 

[capnsensible]

I was thinking of ‘Genius Syndrome’

It can be difficult for us.

 

[Bouba]

It can be difficult for us.

Lesser people abuse us

 

[capnsensible]

Lesser people abuse us

Lightweights

 

[Baggywrinkle]

There has to be name for those of us who are high functioning but will still over estimate their capabilities

It's still Dunning-Kruger I'm afraid ... you're just not far enough up the intelligence curve that you know your own limitations.

With rising intelligence comes an ability to evaluate shortcomings in your own knowledge, and realise that there is always the possibility that the problem is more complex or uncertain than it appears.

Socrates observed, “I know one thing, that I know nothing.” He also said, “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.”

Or ... Bertrand Russell ...

“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.”​

 

[Bouba]

It's still Dunning-Kruger I'm afraid ... you're just not far enough up the intelligence curve that you know your own limitations.

With rising intelligence comes an ability to evaluate shortcomings in your own knowledge, and realise that there is always the possibility that the problem is more complex or uncertain than it appears.

Socrates observed, “I know one thing, that I know nothing.” He also said, “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.”

Or ... Bertrand Russell ...

It’s all very clever but.....the time of Socrates is over as is Russell’s time...so it’s possible that the age of uncertainty is coming to an end....perhaps I am in the vanguard of a epoch of know it all

We could call it the Enfield age...