Part 3 Registration??

I have lost my Natwest account that I had since I was 13yrs old .... that's over 50yrs ....

No messing ... no questions ... BHAM - closed.

As to NHS etc. - if you are EU, even any nationality ... then that's not such a terminal matter ... so please leave out the 'scare mongering' ...
But just to be clear the rule has always been you are struck off from GP and NHS access after 3 months. It’s just that they often don’t notice unless you are mad enough to put a foreign address down when you go for treatment. And of course you are completely covered again the moment you take up residence again, even if staying indefinitely with a relative.
 
I agree at time of renewal you now need proof of bills etc.


We may go Polish next time, not so much for residence but as flag state unexpectedly became a thing instead of VAT paid. It may be sorted by 2025.
Going Polish is NOT a good idea. VAT paid is still the issue. The authorities, particularly in Greece and Italy went after UK flagged boats as a indicator of potential VAT not-paid status. They've cottoned on to the fact the 3rd country boats have gone for Polish registration and that this is lax in evidencing union goods status.
 
But just to be clear the rule has always been you are struck off from GP and NHS access after 3 months. It’s just that they often don’t notice unless you are mad enough to put a foreign address down when you go for treatment. And of course you are completely covered again the moment you take up residence again, even if staying indefinitely with a relative.

As I understand it ... that is for non emergency where you would normally go to GP and then referred for treatment or to Hospital.

But if you are taken in by Ambulance / Paramedic to Hospital - that does not apply.
 
Going Polish is NOT a good idea. VAT paid is still the issue. The authorities, particularly in Greece and Italy went after UK flagged boats as a indicator of potential VAT not-paid status. They've cottoned on to the fact the 3rd country boats have gone for Polish registration and that this is lax in evidencing union goods status.

As someone who searched out Registry's ... I looked at Polish and decided against ... it just did not 'feel right' ..... and I notice its born out by the lack of Polish Flags seen ...
You'd think that if it was so good - Polish Flags would be seen all over Baltic .... they are not. Its actually rare to see.
 
As someone who searched out Registry's ... I looked at Polish and decided against ... it just did not 'feel right' ..... and I notice its born out by the lack of Polish Flags seen ...
You'd think that if it was so good - Polish Flags would be seen all over Baltic .... they are not. Its actually rare to see.
They are now seen all over the Med. It feels a bit more right to us as my wife has a Polish passport and indeed voted in their recent election.
 
Back closer to the question in hand. Should I get an Irish Sailing Association Certificate of Identity and stick a tricolour on the back of my boat?
 
You don't need to get the boat 'coded' unless you are racing or using it for commercial purposes. Part 1 is not a condition survey, its just a measurement for tonnage. Its not interested in what you have on board.
If you can prove that the boat was previously on part 1 and what its tonnage was, you are basically done. The rest is almost as easy as a SSR - providing you can provide reasonable proof that the boat really is yours. E.g. bill of sale.
 
You dont *have* to register the boat at all, but if you take it abroad the authorities will occasionally want you to prove you own it,
Occasionally?? Every time you go into a marina, PM come to say hello or you check into a new country - not sure about the UK non EU passport holders going into Europe, certainly everywhere else in the world uk boat or not registration docs are essential. Very occasionally they might want to see port of registry on the document which SSR doesn't have.
Leaving the UK with no boat reg docs would be a really stupid thing to do.
 
If you can prove that the boat was previously on part 1 and what its tonnage was, you are basically done. The rest is almost as easy as a SSR - providing you can provide reasonable proof that the boat really is yours. E.g. bill of sale.

Not so. If the Part 1 hasexpired you have to start from scratch.
 
Occasionally?? Every time you go into a marina, PM come to say hello or you check into a new country - not sure about the UK non EU passport holders going into Europe, certainly everywhere else in the world uk boat or not registration docs are essential. Very occasionally they might want to see port of registry on the document which SSR doesn't have.
We always put London as that’s guaranteed to be fine. Anywhere is too obscure.
 
If you can prove that the boat was previously on part 1 and what its tonnage was, you are basically done. The rest is almost as easy as a SSR - providing you can provide reasonable proof that the boat really is yours. E.g. bill of sale.

Unfortunately another tonnage survey needed if registration lapsed by more than 12 months:

If a current owner or new owner re-registers a vessel that has previously been UK registered, then the following documents will need to be submitted as part of the application process:

Application to register
Registration fee
Declaration of eligibility
Bill of Sale (if ownership has since changed from previous registration).
UK Certificate of Survey for tonnage and measurement (required if the vessel has been de-register from the UK register for over 12 months) issued by a class/certifying authority (if applicable) -
Certificate of incorporation (if applicable)
The vessel official number will remain the same as the previous UK registration. With all re-registrations, regardless of length of time off the register or if any of the markings have changed, a carving and marking note will be issued and will need to be completed by a recognised surveyor.


Once the UK Ship Register have received the completed carving and marking note, the vessel will be re-registered and a certificate of registry issued to reflect this. A vessel must not be registered on more than one register at a time.

UK Ship Register - Re-registration
 
If you can prove that the boat was previously on part 1 and what its tonnage was, you are basically done. The rest is almost as easy as a SSR - providing you can provide reasonable proof that the boat really is yours. E.g. bill of sale.
"All new registrations regardless of the size of the vessel will require a UK Certificate of Survey for Tonnage and Measurement issued within a 12-month period of the application to register. The survey must be completed by a surveyor from a class/certifying authority or UK Authorised Recognised Organisation."
 
We always put London as that’s guaranteed to be fine. Anywhere is too obscure.
Not guaranteed though. I´ve always *said* London as well but it's not on the SSR registration document. Smiled sweetly & said that's just the way it is more than once checking in when they wanted to see it officially written down. So far after a shrug I've got away with it. Remember most of the time around the world you're standing in a queue with the tankers & cruise liners staff filling out the same forms.
 
Not guaranteed though. I´ve always *said* London as well but it's not on the SSR registration document. Smiled sweetly & said that's just the way it is more than once checking in when they wanted to see it officially written down. So far after a shrug I've got away with it. Remember most of the time around the world you're standing in a queue with the tankers & cruise liners staff filling out the same forms.

Its an interesting point actually .... my Swedish International Certificate does not state Home Port ... but can have an entry. I dec,lined to put HP on the application and they never queried ...
 
Its an interesting point actually .... my Swedish International Certificate does not state Home Port ... but can have an entry. I dec,lined to put HP on the application and they never queried ...
I've a laminated printout with the usual details on it as well which looks vaguely professional. That & a clean polo shirt, long trousers & even socks. Act like a Victorian child, smile & only speak when spoken to. Only answer the questions asked (quite difficult). Push the odds in your favour any way you can think of. Almost always absolutely fine, port captains tend to be very professional & pleasant even in countries many people haven't even heard of. And feels proper seadog ticking boxes to confirm there are no plague victims or diseased rats onboard 😎
 
I've a laminated printout with the usual details on it as well which looks vaguely professional. That & a clean polo shirt, long trousers & even socks. Act like a Victorian child, smile & only speak when spoken to. Only answer the questions asked (quite difficult). Push the odds in your favour any way you can think of. Almost always absolutely fine, port captains tend to be very professional & pleasant even in countries many people haven't even heard of. And feels proper seadog ticking boxes to confirm there are no plague victims or diseased rats onboard 😎
My wife always does the checking in stuff. She is concerned I might act frustrated at inconsistencies. Can sometimes be very odd when she is behind a cruise ship or two checking in, or once in Venice when all the rest were superyachts.
 
I have lost my Natwest account that I had since I was 13yrs old .... that's over 50yrs ....

No messing ... no questions ... BHAM - closed.

As to NHS etc. - if you are EU, even any nationality ... then that's not such a terminal matter ... so please leave out the 'scare mongering' ...

Not scaremongering, I know two people who returned to the UK for treatment and were refused, told they had to be resident for 6 months to qualify aqain. Using the NHS when you return to live in the UK
 
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Not scaremongering, I know two people who returned to the UK for treatment and were refused, told they had to be resident for 6 months to qualify aqain. Using the NHS when you return to live in the UK
Indeed but you can get treatment immediately if you show reasonable proof that you are resident again, and that includes staying with relatives with appropriate paperwork that you have a rental agreement etc.
 
Indeed but you can get treatment immediately if you show reasonable proof that you are resident again, and that includes staying with relatives with appropriate paperwork that you have a rental agreement etc.

The people I referred to had cut all ties with UK, having taken up residence in Portugal. Being below retirement age they didn't qualify for the S1 scheme which maintains eligibility for NHS treatment. Before Brexit, those of us resident there were entitled to Portuguese EHIC which allowed treatment in any EU country but now have to have contributed to social security by working, to qualify for one.
 
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