Paedophiles and marinas

Re: Moderators, attention please.

I am shocked, yes shocked by the amount of paedophile sympathisers on here. Leaving him to live his 'happy' life is something the abused kids will never be able to do. He should be reminded of his crime for the rest of his pathetic, hopefully short life.

You need to take a long look in the mirror and possibly seek help. I have two young kids and hoping none of you are on my pontoon.
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

OK, I think that's the reactionary thread killer right there. Well done.

[Thread to be re-opened anon, when we hope the discussion will return to the sensible debate had so far. Anyone then posting reactionary or tar-brush comments can expect to find their account suspended.]
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

KevB

I was one of the people who PM'd the moderator asking for this thread to be reopened as I felt your last post was completely inappropriate and I wanted to challenge it.

I haven't seen a single post on here that could be seen as coming from a "Paedophile sympathiser". What I have seen is a large number of people standing up for law and order and recognising that unpleasant though it is to think that such people exist we have to deal and manage them in a sensible, practical and just manner.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but I think it is inappropriate of you to condemn others simply because they don't share it.
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

Triassic said:
KevB

I was one of the people who PM'd the moderator asking for this thread to be reopened as I felt your last post was completely inappropriate and I wanted to challenge it.

I haven't seen a single post on here that could be seen as coming from a "Paedophile sympathiser". What I have seen is a large number of people standing up for law and order and recognising that unpleasant though it is to think that such people exist we have to deal and manage them in a sensible, practical and just manner.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but I think it is inappropriate of you to condemn others simply because they don't share it.
Click to expand...

Agreed, the wannabe vigilantes and comments such as KevB's wind me up. I had a lot of dealings with young offenders many years ago and one thing which remains in my memory is that peer pressure has a lot of bearing on behaviour and driving someone such as him back to his perverted friends will have a totally negative outcome.
 
Last edited:
Re: Moderators, attention please.

I have to say that I was rather surprised that this thread has actually been so diverse and that we have had some reasoned and reasonable discussion about difficult issues. I think it is good that the moderators reopened it and well done to them since it is much easier to simply close these things down and avoid the work of moderating them. I am quite happy that there are two sides to this and that some people feel that paedophiles should have all kinds of hideous things done to them due to the severity of their crimes or potential crimes. This type of emotional response to what is abhorrent to most of us is, in some way, a natural reaction. Mob rule, vigilantism and revenge are a base desire when someone feels threatened or hurt by another actions. What has surprised me is the amount of reasoned debate on this thread because it is by no means an easy topic. I think it is up to society to make the rules in a reasoned and sensible way and then to enforce them. I personally feel that it benefits society to feel a duty of care, even to its most abhorrent and vile members. I do not feel it is a benefit, and that it is in fact a detriment to society to take vengeance on others for their perceived wrongs. If someone breaks the rules then they need removed from society until such time as we feel they no longer pose a significant risk. There is an argument regarding the effect of a deterrent on others from harsh sentencing but this needs to be balanced against the harmful effect of revelling in punishment. Two wrongs do not make a right and we must be careful that our penalties for not keeping to societies rules are implemented for the right reasons, to protect society rather than to indulge its need for revenge.
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

Im no sympathiser, but I guess the man has to live somewhere?
Would I want him living near me? not really but if he did I would have to accept it or move.
Another thing is everyone probably knows a child abuser but just doesnt realise it.
Where I work theres approx 1000 people on site, you do the sums.
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

I don't see anyone on here who comes over as a "pedophile sympathiser" - all I've seen is sensible discussion on how to control these people lawfully to mitigate the risk they present. It is a problem that exists in our society, in the past few days it has been announced that another 700 people have been arrested for downloading illegal material, and mob rule will not make it go away - or protect our children. The days of exile or death for people we don't meet societal norms are long gone.

I can see similarities with the the early attempts to tackle the drug problem - hitting the low level users in the hope that it will take away demand and make production less attractive. We know this approach doesn't work with drugs and the focus is now on treating the users while cutting the supply. The same approach must surely be worth a try with pedophile material.
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

Has it occured to anyone that by living on a boat the persecuted paedophile can relocate a damn site easier than he could otherwise? Which beggars the question, how do the authoities keep track of him?
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

Porthandbuoy said:
Has it occured to anyone that by living on a boat the persecuted paedophile can relocate a damn site easier than he could otherwise? Which beggars the question, how do the authoities keep track of him?
Click to expand...

It would be just as easy to move from rented accommodation. If he is on the sex offenders register, the requirement is for him to tell the authorities if he moves, he isn't tracked in any way.
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

I'll relate a story from about twenty five years ago. I was with my family on a Dorset beach one summer's day. I became aware of a commotion in the sea in front of me, an older and younger man were grappling with each other, the younger man was shouting abuse at the older one whilst trying to wrench a video camera off the older man. As it looked like it was bullying of some kind and would go to an all out fight I decided to intervene. When I asked what the problem was the younger man said that the other chap had been filming his daughter getting changed. I told him he couldn't beat the guy up to which he said he was a Police Officer. I told him he should know he couldn't do what he was doing. I suppose a natural reaction for the father but it goes to show that even Police do what they shouldn't when it comes to paedophiles..
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

Frame of mind....frame of mind.
icon_evil.gif
 
Re: Moderators, attention please.

savageseadog said:
I suppose a natural reaction for the father but it goes to show that even Police do what they shouldn't when it comes to paedophiles..
Click to expand...

Putting my rather flippant remark aside for a moment that is actually quite a good example of just how powerful emotions can be around any kind of sexual abuse. Police officers are human and have emotions just like any other parent and given enough provocation they are just as susceptible to letting them override their professionalism. .

I think it's possibly a little unfair in the example given to say the "Police" do what they shouldn't, it might be more accurate to say a "police officer" could do what they shouldn't if the incident happened to involve a child of theirs.
 
There are paedophiles and paedophiles - not all are the same

I saw on french TV the story of a convicted paedophile in the USA. He had been in jail for 5 years and was on the sex offenders register. He was now 21 years old with no hope of ever living anywhere except in a sex offenders compound and no hope of any kind of job or career.

He had been sleeping a few times with his 15 year old girl friend. Then it was his 16th birthday. His girlfriend was still 15 - she was a few weeks younger than him. They slept together again on his 16th birthday.

The father of the girl, then initiated the prosecution with the result that he ended up in jail and that the girl was heart broken - but at least she did not end up marrying a farmer boy.

From the prosecution's perspective it was clear cut. He was an adult having sex with a vulnerable underage girl.

He was lucky he only spent 5 years in jail.
 
Re: There are paedophiles and paedophiles - not all are the same

I dealt with an incident a few years back where a baying mob burnt a family out of their home.

A 15 year old boy had gone a little bit beyond 2nd base with his 14 year old girlfriend (stopped short of actual intercourse) and her father found out. He tried to get the boy prosecuted to no avail so set out on a campaign against the lads family, forcing them eventually to move to another town. Still not satisfied he then spread word around the family's new estate that a "Paedophile" had moved in, resulting in the incident I attended. Fortunately the family, including two other children under 10, got out unharmed but the incident made a lasting impression on me and probably explains why I've made a disproportionate contribution to this thread.
 
Re: There are paedophiles and paedophiles - not all are the same

Tuned into this thread again to see if a date had been set for the lynching.
 
Re: There are paedophiles and paedophiles - not all are the same

michaelchapman said:
I saw on french TV the story of a convicted paedophile in the USA. He had been in jail for 5 years and was on the sex offenders register. He was now 21 years old with no hope of ever living anywhere except in a sex offenders compound and no hope of any kind of job or career.

He had been sleeping a few times with his 15 year old girl friend. Then it was his 16th birthday. His girlfriend was still 15 - she was a few weeks younger than him. They slept together again on his 16th birthday.

The father of the girl, then initiated the prosecution with the result that he ended up in jail and that the girl was heart broken - but at least she did not end up marrying a farmer boy.

From the prosecution's perspective it was clear cut. He was an adult having sex with a vulnerable underage girl.

He was lucky he only spent 5 years in jail.
Click to expand...

Fortunately they're generally a bit more sensible here in the UK.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Top